Texas school board rewrites history

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by Kevin

The good news is that the courts will sort this out. The better news is that the ACLU and similar organizations stand to see a big boost in their endowments both from awards of attorneys fees in civil rights cases and increased donations from folks who will come to the realization that we really need those groups to protect our rights.

Actually one of my first thoughts when I read this was that the ACLU was going to have a field day with this.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Actually one of my first thoughts when I read this was that the ACLU was going to have a field day with this.

My first thought was that Family Guy was going to have a field day with this. But they already did a Texas is full of backward idiots episode.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Actually one of my first thoughts when I read this was that the ACLU was going to have a field day with this.

This isn't the first we're hearing of it. If the ACLU hasn't acted yet, I doubt they will.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by epchick

This isn't the first we're hearing of it. If the ACLU hasn't acted yet, I doubt they will.

There's nothing to act on (legally) unless and until the changes are actually implemented.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

There's nothing to act on (legally) unless and until the changes are actually implemented.

oh i know that, i was just responding to vito's comment about the ACLU.

I think the changes will be implemented. There were several votes already that were in favor of the changes. IDK if they need the voters to vote.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by epchick

oh i know that, i was just responding to vito's comment about the ACLU.

But you said if the ACLU hasn't acted yet, you doubt they will. While I have no idea whether they will act or not, my point was that they haven't had a basis on which to act yet, so they fact that they haven't acted yet is no indication at all of whether they will act.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

But you said if the ACLU hasn't acted yet, you doubt they will. While I have no idea whether they will act or not, my point was that they haven't had a basis on which to act yet, so they fact that they haven't acted yet is no indication at all of whether they will act.

And a woodchuck would chuck wood?

[epchick]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

But you said if the ACLU hasn't acted yet, you doubt they will.

and is that not a response to Vito's post? I was not commenting on the legality of it all. I was just stating this was old news and "if the ACLU hasn't acted by now, I doubt they will."

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by epchick

and is that not a response to Vito's post? I was not commenting on the legality of it all. I was just stating this was old news and "if the ACLU hasn't acted by now, I doubt they will."

Generally you can't sue unless someone is harmed, you can't be harmed until the changes are implemented. Sometimes you can get an injunction, sometimes not.

[phitheta376]

While I don't necessarily support any of the changes being made, I will say that it is hilarious to me that it has liberals in such an uproar. That's because public education has historically had a very strong liberal bias, and for the most part it hasn't been all that controversial. One anecdotal piece of evidence that I have to back up that claim is the fact that my junior year of high school, which was from between 2007 and 2008, my AP US History textbook was "A People's History of the United States," by radical leftist Howard Zinn. In it, everyone from the founding fathers, the men responsible for the freedom, and the strong Republican form of government that we enjoy today, down the the capitalists of the eighteenth century, who rose America from literally the dirt, to a nation that enjoys the strongest standard of living ever experienced by a society anywhere, as merciless, brutal, and oftentimes downright disgusting.

When we put politicians in charge of providing our education, we shouldn't expect anything other than politicization of the education system. And when liberals play political hardball with that system for fifty years, they should expect conservatives to swing back once in a while.

[Animate]

Originally Posted by phitheta376

While I don't necessarily support any of the changes being made, I will say that it is hilarious to me that it has liberals in such an uproar. That's because public education has historically had a very strong liberal bias, and for the most part it hasn't been all that controversial. One anecdotal piece of evidence that I have to back up that claim is the fact that my junior year of high school, which was from between 2007 and 2008, my AP US History textbook was "A People's History of the United States," by radical leftist Howard Zinn. In it, everyone from the founding fathers, the men responsible for the freedom, and the strong Republican form of government that we enjoy today, down the the capitalists of the eighteenth century, who rose America from literally the dirt, to a nation that enjoys the strongest standard of living ever experienced by a society anywhere, as merciless, brutal, and oftentimes downright disgusting.

When we put politicians in charge of providing our education, we shouldn't expect anything other than politicization of the education system. And when liberals play political hardball with that system for fifty years, they should expect conservatives to swing back once in a while.

Curioius, what is a liberal bias when it comes to this? I try to avoid polarizing things in any fashion so I don't always see what others may see.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by phitheta376

While I don't necessarily support any of the changes being made, I will say that it is hilarious to me that it has liberals in such an uproar. That's because public education has historically had a very strong liberal bias, and for the most part it hasn't been all that controversial. One anecdotal piece of evidence that I have to back up that claim is the fact that my junior year of high school . . . .

One anecdote from your own educational background a few years ago does not a widespread 50-year trend of liberal hardball make.

Originally Posted by epchick

and is that not a response to Vito's post? I was not commenting on the legality of it all. I was just stating this was old news and "if the ACLU hasn't acted by now, I doubt they will."

Yes, it's a response. It's just not a relevant response.

There has been nothing for the ACLU to act on so far. So, there's no reason to construe the fact that they haven't done anything yet as an indication that they probably won't. They know perfectly well that any legal challenge they filed would have been thrown out of court as premature.