White flight? Suburbs lose young whites to cities

[Low C Sharp]

If you happen to live along the right bus line, it's great.

"Happen to live" there? Nobody happens to live anywhere unless they inherit a house. They make choices that carry trade-offs. If public transportation is important enough to you, you choose housing close to it. It's not bad luck that you don't have a bus line close by. It's your choice.
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[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

"Happen to live" there? Nobody happens to live anywhere unless they inherit a house. They make choices that carry trade-offs. If public transportation is important enough to you, you choose housing close to it. It's not bad luck that you don't have a bus line close by. It's your choice.

Where are you quoting that from? I don't remember seeing that.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

"Happen to live" there? Nobody happens to live anywhere unless they inherit a house. They make choices that carry trade-offs. If public transportation is important enough to you, you choose housing close to it. It's not bad luck that you don't have a bus line close by. It's your choice.

And if you purchase a house near the bus line and they stop that bus line?

[agzg]

Originally Posted by AGDee

And if you purchase a house near the bus line and they stop that bus line?

Massive budget cuts in public transportation (coupled with breakdowns in negotiations between executives and unions of drivers) make this more and more common.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by agzg

Massive budget cuts in public transportation (coupled with breakdowns in negotiations between executives and unions of drivers) make this more and more common.

This is what a lot of people are dealing with now. I live close to a subway stop that takes me to my office in about 30 minutes, so I'm not too dependent on the bus, but a lot of people in my neighborhood are.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by agzg

Massive budget cuts in public transportation (coupled with breakdowns in negotiations between executives and unions of drivers) make this more and more common.

I agree. And, it's not just that point specifically. When you choose where you want to live, you base it on a lot of things: school systems (if you have kids), convenience, level of urban/suburban/rural, etc., safety of the neighborhood, all kinds of things! The problem is, a lot of things change and sometimes your dream home/neighborhood became something totally different but you're stuck there.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

This is what a lot of people are dealing with now. I live close to a subway stop that takes me to my office in about 30 minutes, so I'm not too dependent on the bus, but a lot of people in my neighborhood are.

Originally Posted by AGDee

I agree. And, it's not just that point specifically. When you choose where you want to live, you base it on a lot of things: school systems (if you have kids), convenience, level of urban/suburban/rural, etc., safety of the neighborhood, all kinds of things! The problem is, a lot of things change and sometimes your dream home/neighborhood became something totally different but you're stuck there.

The CTA cut a handful of bus routes a few months ago, and are putting fewer trains on the tracks (causing crowded buses and trains that remind me of that video from Japan and some pretty significant delays, depending on the time of day). I think a lot of the bus routes were express buses, but some were not. Kindof a bummer, really.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by agzg

The CTA cut a handful of bus routes a few months ago, and are putting fewer trains on the tracks (causing crowded buses and trains that remind me of that video from Japan and some pretty significant delays, depending on the time of day). I think a lot of the bus routes were express buses, but some were not. Kindof a bummer, really.

Are you talking about the subways packed so full of people that they have attendants who have paddles used to shove extra people in? We witnessed this on my birthday trip to Tokyo in October. Hilarious! My favorite part was watching a train pull up with people packed so tight that their faces were smashed against the side of the windows. They actually have train cars reserved for women so they don't have men copping a feel while they're shoved in so tight!

[agzg]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Are you talking about the subways packed so full of people that they have attendants who have paddles used to shove extra people in? We witnessed this on my birthday trip to Tokyo in October. Hilarious! My favorite part was watching a train pull up with people packed so tight that their faces were smashed against the side of the windows. They actually have train cars reserved for women so they don't have men copping a feel while they're shoved in so tight!

That would be it. It's certainly not that bad but there are definitely times when you don't need to hold on to anything in order to stay upright.