Can't afford your house? Here is an easy fix, let taxpayers do it.

cheerfulgreek · #1 05-12-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AZPrez

Won't work. I live in another country and I still have to file U.S. taxes.

I wasn't serious, I was posting out of anger. But I'm curious, Why?

AOII Angel · #2 05-12-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I wasn't serious, I was posting out of anger. But I'm curious, Why?

Because he's a US citizen. You don't remember Wesley Snipes getting in trouble for tax evasion for not paying taxes while working on films in Europe?

cheerfulgreek · #3 05-12-2010, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Because he's a US citizen. You don't remember Wesley Snipes getting in trouble for tax evasion for not paying taxes while working on films in Europe?

I figured that. I would just keep filing U.S. taxes until I was a citizen of that particular country.

Obama sure is handing out a ton of freebies. He definitely won't be getting my vote again.

AZPrez · #4 05-12-2010, 10:32 AM

AOII Angel is correct. U.S. citizens need to file for U.S. taxes regardless of where they live. The U.S. is one of the few countries that requires this (though I hear the U.K. is also considering this now). Tax treaty agreements take much of the bite out of taxes payable, but it's still a hassle to file for U.S. taxes in addition to the taxes of the foreign country in which one presently resides.

(Oh, and I assumed you weren't serious, cheerfulgreek, when I replied.

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AnotherKD · #5 05-12-2010, 10:39 AM

[QUOTE=cheerfulgreek;1927804]
Obama sure is handing out a ton of freebies. QUOTE]

But some people don't realize that this money has to come from somewhere, and as we're pretty much past our credit limit with other countries... it's coming from my wallet. There's a car that parks somewhat near mine at work that has a bumper sticker saying "Honk if I pay your mortgage". I thought it was funny, and now I just think it's sad.

What about those people who are on the brink of home ownership? Those that will have to pay more taxes (as the taxes used for programs like these can't all come from only the people making over $200k/year) so their budgets are stretched and also that the place they were looking at to buy now has even higher property taxes that they can't afford. This is starting to sound like the gentrification thread now... pardon my ranting...

cheerfulgreek · #6 05-12-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AnotherKD;1927812[QUOTE

But some people don't realize that this money has to come from somewhere, and as we're pretty much past our credit limit with other countries... it's coming from my wallet. There's a car that parks somewhat near mine at work that has a bumper sticker saying "Honk if I pay your mortgage". I thought it was funny, and now I just think it's sad.

What about those people who are on the brink of home ownership? Those that will have to pay more taxes (as the taxes used for programs like these can't all come from only the people making over $200k/year) so their budgets are stretched and also that the place they were looking at to buy now has even higher property taxes that they can't afford. This is starting to sound like the gentrification thread now... pardon my ranting...

THIS.

AOII Angel · #7 05-12-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

THIS.

I don't disagree. The problem is, that at some point, you can't have a neighborhood with 30% abandoned homes either. That's what causes property taxes to go up right as property values go down! That's the main problem in Arizona and Florida right now. Remember also that Obama isn't the only one throwing money at the problem. That all started with the Republicans and George Bush. No one wants to hear that but it bears repeating because it is true. The economy has so little to do with the government, and all the government can really do is keep citizens from falling off the edge without pushing the country into complete bankruptcy. This is an easy program to criticize, but where are you going to really cut the budget? Military spending? We're in the middle of two wars! Unemployement? We have 10% unemployment and the job market is just starting to show minimal signs of improvement. Medicare? Do you really want the AARP after your ass? The deficit is nice to cry about, but remember that both sides had an even hand in running it up and a recession is not the time to worry about paying it down.

cheerfulgreek · #8 05-12-2010, 11:18 AM

[QUOTE=AOII Angel;1927829]

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I don't disagree. The problem is, that at some point, you can't have a neighborhood with 30% abandoned homes either. That's what causes property taxes to go up right as property values go down! That's the main problem in Arizona and Florida right now. Remember also that Obama isn't the only one throwing money at the problem. That all started with the Republicans and George Bush. No one wants to hear that but it bears repeating because it is true. The economy has so little to do with the government, and all the government can really do is keep citizens from falling off the edge without pushing the country into complete bankruptcy. This is an easy program to criticize, but where are you going to really cut the budget? Military spending? We're in the middle of two wars! Unemployement? We have 10% unemployment and the job market is just starting to show minimal signs of improvement. Medicare? Do you really want the AARP after your ass? The deficit is nice to cry about, but remember that both sides had an even hand in running it up and a recession is not the time to worry about paying it down.

This makes sense, but we're in two wars we don't need to be involved in. You can't win a war on terror. We're fighting an ideal not a war. How do you win that? You can't. And then we're trying to set up a puppet government in Iraq.

Kevin · #9 05-12-2010, 11:05 AM

[QUOTE=AnotherKD;1927812]

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Obama sure is handing out a ton of freebies. QUOTE]

But some people don't realize that this money has to come from somewhere, and as we're pretty much past our credit limit with other countries... it's coming from my wallet. There's a car that parks somewhat near mine at work that has a bumper sticker saying "Honk if I pay your mortgage". I thought it was funny, and now I just think it's sad.

What about those people who are on the brink of home ownership? Those that will have to pay more taxes (as the taxes used for programs like these can't all come from only the people making over $200k/year) so their budgets are stretched and also that the place they were looking at to buy now has even higher property taxes that they can't afford. This is starting to sound like the gentrification thread now... pardon my ranting...

Yep this.

This situation is straight bull****.

States are pretty cash strapped right now and this is about as irresponsible and shortsighted a use of taxpayer money as I can possibly imagine.

cheerfulgreek · #10 05-12-2010, 11:08 AM

[QUOTE=Kevin;1927824]

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Originally Posted by Kevin

Yep this.

This situation is straight bull****.

States are pretty cash strapped right now and this is about as irresponsible and shortsighted a use of taxpayer money as I can possibly imagine.

The quote thing is all messed up. lol I didn't say this.

AOII Angel · #11 05-12-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I figured that. I would just keep filing U.S. taxes until I was a citizen of that particular country.

Obama sure is handing out a ton of freebies. He definitely won't be getting my vote again.

Obama isn't handing out the freebies, the conservative states of Florida and Arizona along with Michigan and California are choosing to use money approved by the federal government to help homeowners avoid foreclosures. Blame the states for their dumb ideas. It's funny how the blame percolates directly to the top even when the process goes exactly how everyone says it should..."Let the states decide how to fix their problems."

cheerfulgreek · #12 05-12-2010, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Obama isn't handing out the freebies, the conservative states of Florida and Arizona along with Michigan and California are choosing to use money approved by the federal government to help homeowners avoid foreclosures. Blame the states for their dumb ideas. It's funny how the blame percolates directly to the top even when the process goes exactly how everyone says it should..."Let the states decide how to fix their problems."

Well, thanks for telling me that. I didn't know it was the states. But Obama is still all talk, no action.

Psi U MC Vito · #13 05-12-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Well, thanks for telling me that. I didn't know it was the states. But Obama is still all talk, no action.

WTF? Even if you don't like the guy you have to admit he has done some things. Are you expecting him to wave a magic wand and fix all the problems this country is having?

cheerfulgreek · #14 05-12-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

WTF? Even if you don't like the guy you have to admit he has done some things. Are you expecting him to wave a magic wand and fix all the problems this country is having?

Would you shut up? Seriously. I didn't expect him to wave some "magic wand". Everyone thinks he's God's gift to the world, and to me, he hasn't done anything that any other US president hasn't done or attempted to do.

Todd Bridges · #15 05-14-2010, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I figured that. I would just keep filing U.S. taxes until I was a citizen of that particular country.

Obama sure is handing out a ton of freebies. He definitely won't be getting my vote again.

This is some bullshit. It kills when Obama haters start talking about him and expect him to clean up some shit that Bush destroyed, over night. That mofo even took money from SS when that wasn't even supposed to be touched. I'm glad Obama is handing out what you call "freebies" because Bush never handed out a damn thing. And what do you think Bush did with the money he took from SS? He damn sure didn't use it to fix the already fucked up economy. Think about that. You aren't making no sense, at all.