Miami University Pi Beta Phi Suspended - Page 8

MUSK81 · #1 06-17-2010, 08:55 PM

Maybe so - but anyone who thinks other chapters won't try to make this work to their advantage is dreaming.

33girl · #2 06-18-2010, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MUSK81

Maybe so - but anyone who thinks other chapters won't try to make this work to their advantage is dreaming.

Perhaps. I've actually seen a lot of support (for one of the groups at least) on other websites.

Even if that is what happens, no need for an alumna who's older and should be wiser to post something encouraging it.

remmie_k · #3 06-19-2010, 02:35 AM

I'm not being catty but I have a friend who moved here from Virginia and went back for college. Everyone in her family has always attended W&M and she said it is really hard to be a Pi Phi there. It is a lot of old money Virginians. She is a legacy on both sides of her family. She thinks Pi Phi is a private school kind of sorority and that it doesn't do well at public schools or this is what happens. I don't know what does everyone else think? Does it matter if Pi Phi is big at private schools? I know it sounds bratty for her to say 90% of the girls they take are legacies but does their strict requirements make them better behaved?

remmie_k · #4 06-19-2010, 02:47 AM

Some of the oldest chapters were at private schools like Stanford, Purdue, and Tulane. Alot also at the public schools surrounding IL.

MUSK81 · #5 06-19-2010, 08:35 AM

I think it's more about the culture of the campus itself than it is about a public or private school. If a school is conservative, public or private, most of the Greek chapters probably are too. At a party school,public or private, you're going to find a lot more craziness among the Greeks.
Also, I agree with SWTX. This is going the give the Greek haters that much more ammunition and will hurt chapters everywhere, expecially the organizations involved in the recent incidents.
Oh, and BTW, William and Mary is a public school!

Drolefille · #6 06-19-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by remmie_k

I'm not being catty but I have a friend who moved here from Virginia and went back for college. Everyone in her family has always attended W&M and she said it is really hard to be a Pi Phi there. It is a lot of old money Virginians. She is a legacy on both sides of her family. She thinks Pi Phi is a private school kind of sorority and that it doesn't do well at public schools or this is what happens. I don't know what does everyone else think? Does it matter if Pi Phi is big at private schools? I know it sounds bratty for her to say 90% of the girls they take are legacies but does their strict requirements make them better behaved?

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Originally Posted by remmie_k

Some of the oldest chapters were at private schools like Stanford, Purdue, and Tulane. Alot also at the public schools surrounding IL.

QFP.

Barbie's_Rush · #7 06-19-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by remmie_k

I'm not being catty but I have a friend who moved here from Virginia and went back for college. Everyone in her family has always attended W&M and she said it is really hard to be a Pi Phi there. It is a lot of old money Virginians. She is a legacy on both sides of her family. She thinks Pi Phi is a private school kind of sorority and that it doesn't do well at public schools or this is what happens. I don't know what does everyone else think? Does it matter if Pi Phi is big at private schools? I know it sounds bratty for her to say 90% of the girls they take are legacies but does their strict requirements make them better behaved?

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Originally Posted by remmie_k

Some of the oldest chapters were at private schools like Stanford, Purdue, and Tulane. Alot also at the public schools surrounding IL.

ORLY? Awesome to be such an expert and not even be Greek.

remmie_k · #8 06-19-2010, 07:19 PM

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ORLY? Awesome to be such an expert and not even be Greek.

I was just the messenger from what my older friend said. Pi Phi isn't a sorority that I know people around here join. I would think it is more of a Northern girl sorority. Everyone joins the typical 5 around here and in the South. 90% of everyone I know pick out of the 5. To find out chapter info it is on their website with the founding dates.

Barbie's_Rush · #9 06-19-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by remmie_k

I was just the messenger from what my older friend said. Pi Phi isn't a sorority that I know people around here join. I would think it is more of a Northern girl sorority. Everyone joins the typical 5 around here and in the South. 90% of everyone I know pick out of the 5. To find out chapter info it is on their website with the founding dates.

Well you think wrong, are terribly uninformed and are being insulting. It would probably be a good idea to STFU now and concentrate on getting a bid.

violetpretty · #10 06-19-2010, 08:34 AM

W&M and Purdue ARE public schools. Every chapter is different. There are PLENTY of public schools where Pi Phi behaves just fine. Otherwise they wouldn't have as many chapters as they do.

SWTXBelle · #11 06-19-2010, 02:53 PM

I don't know that I would say the problem is even drinking to excess - the problem seems to be in what is acceptable behavior when drinking to excess, or acceptable behavior, period. Of course, campus norms vary, but do y'all think current teens/early 20s have less of a sense of restraint? At the two universities I attended as an undergrad even when individuals drank too much they didn't indulge in the kind of destructive behavior that has landed the groups in this thread in hot water. I guarantee you that had groups trashed venues "back in the day" we would have heard about it, facebook or no.
As part of our pledge training (see how old I am?) we were given a very strict accounting of behaviors we would NOT indulge in - everything from walking while smoking (!) to never leaving the public areas of a fraternity house. I'm guessing that is no longer the case - and it sounds like unchaperoned formals are the rule rather than the exception. I hate to turn into a cane-shaking old fogie, but really - KIDS! I don't know what's wrong with these kids these days!

33girl · #12 06-19-2010, 04:04 PM

We never had chaperoned formals. I don't think anyone would have gone. I know I wouldn't have.

Drolefille · #13 06-19-2010, 04:14 PM

I believe we were required to have an alumna present and a certain number of assigned sober members including one member of our executive council. But our it could have been any alumna, AFAIK, the only restriction might have been requiring a certain number of years out of school. (And of course underage members were not supposed to drink either. Right.)

But it never felt chaperoned. Although we never destroyed our locations either so...

remmie_k · #14 06-19-2010, 07:21 PM

Sorry for the mistake also, I thought William & Mary as well as Purdue were private because they are $$$$.

pshsx1 · #15 06-19-2010, 08:44 PM

Hmm.. at our formal, we invite our chapter advisers and we, of course, have a sober Risk Management team (SPERM). All of the crazy stuff happens, though, after they leave. I don't think it's planned, I just think it's coincidental; The later it gets, the drunker everyone is. I will admit that I have a quite destructive campus, though.
My chapter actually had a formal quite similar to the one this Pi Phi chapter had, but not quite as disgusting... we were charged for damages and missing items, though.

I think it's all based on campus climate...