Indiana State U (Terre Haute): Code of Conduct Revisions (Alcohol, etc.) for 2010-11

[AOII Angel]

I have to agree with both of you. I know when the drinking age changed in LA to 21 when I was in school in the late 90s, suddenly there was a huge increase in the use of valium and xanax to potentiate the effects of the little alcohol students could get their hands on. I knew people who even took Rohypnol...on purpose!

I would love to see the stats on the number of college kids that have died from alcohol overdose before and after the drinking age was changed.

[Ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

II would love to see the stats on the number of college kids that have died from alcohol overdose before and after the drinking age was changed.

I am not going to infer from what you have written as to were you stand on the drinking age "controversy" but I for one believe we should really rethink this law. Wouldn't it be better to change it back to 18 for beer and wine but also increase the age for an unrestricted driver's license to 18 as well? Kids can have permits for driving with limited privileges.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

I am not going to infer from what you have written as to were you stand on the drinking age "controversy" but I for one believe we should really rethink this law. Wouldn't it be better to change it back to 18 for beer and wine but also increase the age for an unrestricted driver's license to 18 as well? Kids can have permits for driving with limited privileges.

Yes it would, but no congressmen have the balls to propose it. The MADD lobby is out of control even though the org itself is a cluster#%ck. There is a group of college presidents trying to do exactly what you mentioned.

http://www.amethystinitiative.org/

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

I am not going to infer from what you have written as to were you stand on the drinking age "controversy" but I for one believe we should really rethink this law. Wouldn't it be better to change it back to 18 for beer and wine but also increase the age for an unrestricted driver's license to 18 as well? Kids can have permits for driving with limited privileges.

Originally Posted by 33girl

Yes it would, but no congressmen have the balls to propose it. The MADD lobby is out of control even though the org itself is a cluster#%ck. There is a group of college presidents trying to do exactly what you mentioned.

http://www.amethystinitiative.org/

You don't have to infer, I'll tell you outright...I'm for bringing it back down to 18. I don't think you need to change the driving age. I think you need to have very strict consequences for drinking and driving with none of the second chance crap that a lot of these multiple offenders got away with years ago. The problem with drinking and driving wasn't age related, it was cultural and enforcement related.

I agree with 33, though, no one has the balls to go against MADD which is populated with a bunch of teetotalers who can't understand that they are turning future generations into binge drinkers instead of normal social drinkers. We all know the things that go along with this like rape, alcohol poisoning, assault, etc. It doesn't stop when they leave college. I have friends from medical school that still drink like this (including my husband when he gets around his friends, which is luckily not often.) It has become a societal norm for anyone below a certain age...which is SAD!

[Ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

You don't have to infer, I'll tell you outright...I'm for bringing it back down to 18. I don't think you need to change the driving age. I think you need to have very strict consequences for drinking and driving with none of the second chance crap that a lot of these multiple offenders got away with years ago. The problem with drinking and driving wasn't age related, it was cultural and enforcement related.

I agree with 33, though, no one has the balls to go against MADD which is populated with a bunch of teetotalers who can't understand that they are turning future generations into binge drinkers instead of normal social drinkers. We all know the things that go along with this like rape, alcohol poisoning, assault, etc. It doesn't stop when they leave college. I have friends from medical school that still drink like this (including my husband when he gets around his friends, which is luckily not often.) It has become a societal norm for anyone below a certain age...which is SAD!

Ha! The old conservative geezer (me) and the young liberal "whippersnapper" finally agree.

I agree with 33 as well. MADD has really messed things up with unintended consequences. Binge drinking is a real problem. Sort of like what happened with prohibition in the '20's. The things prohibition was supposed to stop became more prevalent. Ditto's the SAD!

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

Ha! The old conservative geezer (me) and the young liberal "whippersnapper" finally agree.

I agree with 33 as well. MADD has really messed things up with unintended consequences. Binge drinking is a real problem. Sort of like what happened with prohibition in the '20's. The things prohibition was supposed to stop became more prevalent. Ditto's the SAD!

Ha, ha! You know, my parents and I find we agree on more things than we realize when we actually get down to the meat of the matter. Most of the things we disagree on are the means to the end.

BTW, anyone calling me a "young" liberal is pretty funny! I'm 34!

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I'm 34!

We're still youngbucks compared to some of the frequent posters, but I only defer to those who are my parents' ages, 65-71 years old.