Greece! Out of Control Due to Socialism

[AOII Angel]

States' rights freaks have such a weird fascination with their own state surviving like a roach after the nuclear holocaust. Uh...it's not going to happen. Every state is too entangled to survive without the others.

[Ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

States' rights freaks have such a weird fascination with their own state surviving like a roach after the nuclear holocaust. Uh...it's not going to happen. Every state is too entangled to survive without the others.

I call BS on this. Not true. Where did you get that idea? Unless they are holding muni or state bonds fpr bankrupt states there is little bleed over. There may be a ripple in the pipeline of products from these states but there are others who will fill the void.

The states that spend themselves into oblivion and then cry poor mouth get no sympathy from me. Try cutting the spending. It can be done.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

I call BS on this. Not true. Where did you get that idea? Unless they are holding muni or state bonds fpr bankrupt states there is little bleed over. There may be a ripple in the pipeline of products from these states but there are others who will fill the void.

The states that spend themselves into oblivion and then cry poor mouth get no sympathy from me. Try cutting the spending. It can be done.

Really... So You really think North Carolina would survive by itself? I don't think so. States rely HEAVILY on the federal government.

[Beryana]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Really... So You really think North Carolina would survive by itself? I don't think so. States rely HEAVILY on the federal government.

And that is because of the way our society/country has devolved. The Federal government has gotten out of hand, something the framers of the Constitution hoped to avoid by limiting what the Federal government SHOULD be allowed to do and giving more autonomy to the individual States. What is good for the people of California, Georgia, Maine, etc is not necessarily what is the best for Wisconsin, Wyoming, Tennessee, etc.

I like the Constitution the way it was written - with limited Federal government. It is a shame that most politicians don't feel that way. I'm also REALLY happy (as a side note) that my Congressman, Dave Obey, is NOT running for his 22nd term!

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Beryana

And that is because of the way our society/country has devolved. The Federal government has gotten out of hand, something the framers of the Constitution hoped to avoid by limiting what the Federal government SHOULD be allowed to do and giving more autonomy to the individual States. What is good for the people of California, Georgia, Maine, etc is not necessarily what is the best for Wisconsin, Wyoming, Tennessee, etc.

I like the Constitution the way it was written - with limited Federal government. It is a shame that most politicians don't feel that way. I'm also REALLY happy (as a side note) that my Congressman, Dave Obey, is NOT running for his 22nd term!

But that all changed after the civil war, and the question of whether we were just a loose federation of states or a true union was answered. I'm not arguing philosophical questions here but reality.

[DrPhil]

There are about 3 different topics going on here:

1. No state is an island. We are the United States for a reason. You are sadly mistaken if you think what happens in one state has absolutely no impact at the Federal and state levels.
2. What works for Wisconsin does not necessarily work for Maine and that's why states have a level of autonomy.
3. How you like dem Greeks?!

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

There are about 3 different topics going on here:

1. No state is an island. We are the United States for a reason.

Hawai'i is an island. Several, in fact. If Puerto Rico joins they'll be an island state.

And let's not forget about Rhode Island. (just kidding)