Motivate or punish?

[sandiego_DUde]

We have the lowest dues of any house on campus, $500/semester and are aware of what every other house pays. We used to pay only $450 and the entire house voted a year ago to raise it $50 SIMPLY so we'd have more money. I can see this passing since we'd still be the lowest priced house, which is a big deal to lots of guys for some reason. Additionally, lots of guys talk about what they'd do if we had more money... we would.

AND, as SusySorostitute asked, "Why have these members not quit yet?" That's a good question, albeit one I cannot currently answer. At the very least, the proposition will open up a much-needed discussion and even if the most of the house doesn't want it to pass, I can easily persuade the execs to vote to pass it (I'm not exec so there would be at least 9/20 votes for it to pass when it is presented to the house). In response to your other question, I don't know whether they can pass something after the house voted against it. I kinda hope not.

Lastly, as mentioned above in my plan, partying will not be affected (now). In all fairness, I don't believe sororities are allowed to host parties so unless I'm wrong, I'm not understanding your stance on it. I know on my campus, every sorority has a certain number of community service hours required per member. Feel free to disagree but reputation is built (positively) by doing community service with sororities, in which they see a better side of us and are in a non-threatening situation.

[SusySorostitute]

Originally Posted by sandiego_DUde

We have the lowest dues of any house on campus, $500/semester and are aware of what every other house pays. We used to pay only $450 and the entire house voted a year ago to raise it $50 SIMPLY so we'd have more money. I can see this passing since we'd still be the lowest priced house, which is a big deal to lots of guys for some reason. Additionally, lots of guys talk about what they'd do if we had more money... we would.

AND, as SusySorostitute asked, "Why have these members not quit yet?" That's a good question, albeit one I cannot currently answer. At the very least, the proposition will open up a much-needed discussion and even if the most of the house doesn't want it to pass, I can easily persuade the execs to vote to pass it (I'm not exec so there would be at least 9/20 votes for it to pass when it is presented to the house). In response to your other question, I don't know whether they can pass something after the house voted against it. I kinda hope not.

Lastly, as mentioned above in my plan, partying will not be affected (now). In all fairness, I don't believe sororities are allowed to host parties so unless I'm wrong, I'm not understanding your stance on it. I know on my campus, every sorority has a certain number of community service hours required per member. Feel free to disagree but reputation is built (positively) by doing community service with sororities, in which they see a better side of us and are in a non-threatening situation.

well first of all, sororities have mixers/swaps/socials (parties with fraternities), i'm assuming you don't have those? secondly, is doing community service with sororities truly how reputation on your campus is built? maybe you need to build up stronger sorority connections because that's clearly not working for you (fun social events may even be a way to do this!). also, i believe it is easier for girls in general to get into other fraternity parties. sororities do not really need to have their own parties in order to have fun and something to be proud of. for fraternities, that's not so much the case. a lot of your reputation and your appeal to rushes is going to be on your parties. whether or not that's fair is off the table. honestly, you are starting to come off to me as an all-work-and-no-play power-tripper. you need to give these men a reason to want to be involved.