House approves bill to let Puerto Ricans vote to become 51st state

[RU OX Alum]

Slight hijack: What does gringo mean? Does it mean simply "outsider" or does it mean specifically white anglo?

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

Slight hijack: What does gringo mean? Does it mean simply "outsider" or does it mean specifically white anglo?

Wiki's Answer

I've really only heard my husband use it in regards to white people, but Wiki says Mexicans use it for any US Citizen.

My dad said there was an old Army story about the Mexican-American war where the American armies were wearing green uniforms, and the officers would send them into battle by yelling "Green Go!", but I think that's just a story. It's similar to one of the Wiki proposed etymologies, but not the same.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

Slight hijack: What does gringo mean? Does it mean simply "outsider" or does it mean specifically white anglo?

More of the white anglo part than the outsider.

Usually when someone says 'gringo' they mean it in a more derogatory way. And we use it for people who *usually* are non-Spanish speaking white people.

A more affectionate term that could be used is 'guero' which doesn't always necessarily mean "blonde."

[Boodleboy322]

Very interesting - I would speculate that this won't get passed the Senate. I had the pleasure in visiting the "El Conquistador" Resort about a year ago in Fajardo and had a really good time. Everything was a little bit on the pricey side but worth it. They have a really good light beer there that you can't get in the US. If this thing does pass the Senate I wonder if any of these types of goods will be better facilitated to get over to the US. Anyway, the beer is called "Medalla Light". It is sort of like a Corona or Land Shark beer but better. It definitely tastes great in that Tropical heat by the Caribbean. If you're ever down there and want more Medalla for your buck I would highly suggest taking a rental car and head out to "El Yunque" for a day. El Yunque is a natural Tropical Rain forest out there. You'll have a blast and if you take your spouse or significant other there is a natural waterfall at the foot of the mountain that you can hike to and get that "Token" snapshot. Anyway, on the way you'll come across a little Puerto Rican convenient store near a little neighborhood. There's no AC in there but they do keep their beers refrigerated. You'll be able to get a 12 pack for the price of 1 back at your resort or hotel. Of course there is a plethora of Rums in PR. That should be obvious for any fan of the Captain or Bacardi. We'll see what happens here. I imagine that accepting Spanish as a second official language would stir up some folks opinions and legacies. As long as they are getting Federally taxed like the rest of us I have no problem with it.

Cheers,

Boodleboy322

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by Boodleboy322

Very interesting - I would speculate that this won't get passed the Senate. I had the pleasure in visiting the "El Conquistador" Resort about a year ago in Fajardo and had a really good time. Everything was a little bit on the pricey side but worth it. They have a really good light beer there that you can't get in the US. If this thing does pass the Senate I wonder if any of these types of goods will be better facilitated to get over to the US. Anyway, the beer is called "Medalla Light". It is sort of like a Corona or Land Shark beer but better. It definitely tastes great in that Tropical heat by the Caribbean. If you're ever down there and want more Medalla for your buck I would highly suggest taking a rental car and head out to "El Yunque" for a day. El Yunque is a natural Tropical Rain forest out there. You'll have a blast and if you take your spouse or significant other there is a natural waterfall at the foot of the mountain that you can hike to and get that "Token" snapshot. Anyway, on the way you'll come across a little Puerto Rican convenient store near a little neighborhood. There's no AC in there but they do keep their beers refrigerated. You'll be able to get a 12 pack for the price of 1 back at your resort or hotel. Of course there is a plethora of Rums in PR. That should be obvious for any fan of the Captain or Bacardi. We'll see what happens here. I imagine that accepting Spanish as a second official language would stir up some folks opinions and legacies. As long as they are getting Federally taxed like the rest of us I have no problem with it.

Cheers,

Boodleboy322

The thing with that is the United States as a whole does not have an official language.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by epchick

More of the white anglo part than the outsider.

Usually when someone says 'gringo' they mean it in a more derogatory way. And we use it for people who *usually* are non-Spanish speaking white people.

A more affectionate term that could be used is 'guero' which doesn't always necessarily mean "blonde."

Thanks! I've been called "gringo" but not 'guero'.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Last time, they had a school kid design the flag. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=106228362

Woooooow. That was neat.

Originally Posted by AnotherKD

It just seems kind of shitty to me that we just fought a losing battle for trying to get DC statehood, and now about a week later, the House is like, Hey, Puerto Rico! Wanna join us?

This made me laugh a little, but I totally understand. I don't think this will get past the Senate either, but it'd be interesting if it did. I still feel like Alaska and Hawaii aren't widely accepted as states in most people's minds. Like people from Colorado are more likely to be called "Americans" than people from Hawaii. They're usually called "Hawaiians." If PR is added to the mix, I think it'll be the same.

I didn't realize the term "Hispanic" offends some people until I saw a debate about it in a movie. It kinda made me realize how much in this world can offend or be "not okay" with people that I just don't realize.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by epchick

More of the white anglo part than the outsider.

Usually when someone says 'gringo' they mean it in a more derogatory way. And we use it for people who *usually* are non-Spanish speaking white people.

A more affectionate term that could be used is 'guero' which doesn't always necessarily mean "blonde."

I've been called guero but never a gringo, which is good because I'm sure I'd get a little hot under the collar if that happened.

And don't get me started on the practice of referring to everyone with white skin Anglo. Maybe I'm wrong but if you're not from what's now northern France and the U.K. you aren't Anglo.