10-year-old's pregnancy fuels Mexican abortion debate

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

No one but this girl knows which would cause her more psychological pain. Honestly, different people have different breaking points and only she would know which situation would leave her worse off emotionally (and she may not even know till she's older and it's too late).

The girl doesn't know that. Adults can't predict their mental and emotional well-being so a 10 year old darn sure can't.

Originally Posted by christiangirl

ETA: On that note, I wonder if anyone's asked the girl what she wants to do. If she voiced a decision, would anyone go with her wish (whatever it was) or just point out that she's 10 and "doesn't understand the consequences?"

As far as I'm concerned, she is below the age of consent for sex and below the age of decision making capacity. Societies can't have it both ways. You can't tell children that they are children and then give them life altering decisions to make where their choices will be the end-all that can't be overridden by the adult decision makers.

The adults should do what they think is the right decision (hopefully, abortion) and get her into counseling until she's 100 years old.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

The girl doesn't know that. Adults can't predict their mental and emotional well-being so a 10 year old darn sure can't.

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That's kind of out there. It should be her decision alone, in my view, because it is her.

The 10 year old in question will make a better decision than any adult who it isn't happening ever could.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

It should be her decision alone, in my view, because it is her.

The 10 year old in question will make a better decision than any adult who it isn't happening ever could.

I look forward to the day the laws catch up with that ridiculous line of thinking.

Parents would love for their children to be able to to help pay the household bills, drive themselves everywhere, and take control of their own schooling and futures. And while they're at it, if they want to smoke, drink, and fuck--why not? They are fully aware of themselves and fully capable of making such decisions. Children are just shortass adults. Child labor laws and statutory laws are complete bullshit.

Scoff.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

You can't tell children that they are children and then give them life altering decisions to make where their choices will be the end-all that can't be overridden by the adult decision makers.

Angel's Advocate: If you've just admitted that adults couldn't predit their own emotional and mental well-being, they why should they get to override the girl's decision regarding hers? Would your feelings on that change depending on what she chose?

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

Angel's Advocate: If you've just admitted that adults couldn't predit their own emotional and mental well-being, they why should they get to override the girl's decision regarding hers? Would your feelings on that change depending on what she chose?

Because a 10 year old doesn't even have the capability of understanding the full consequences of either action. A 10 year old doesn't have the right to make medical decisions for themselves. They don't get to choose whether they get a flu shot. They don't get to choose whether they get a blood test. Their parents are their legal guardians and as such, get to decide everything about their lives, within the law.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by AGDee

Because a 10 year old doesn't even have the capability of understanding the full consequences of either action. A 10 year old doesn't have the right to make medical decisions for themselves. They don't get to choose whether they get a flu shot. They don't get to choose whether they get a blood test. Their parents are their legal guardians and as such, get to decide everything about their lives, within the law.

Yeah but her one legal guardian raped her and got her pregnant, and the other one took forever to tell anyone about it.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by WinniBug

I would think that the psychological repercussions of an abortion would be worse.

Are you kidding me? Forcing a 10 year old to carry the product of a monster? Not only rape, statutory rape, AND incest. I fail to see why a product of incest should be born. I do not understand how someone could be against abortion even in cases of rape, incest, and threats to the mother's health, ALL 3 of which apply here.

Nevermind that I think that any "guilt" about abortions is COMPLETELY a product of socialization and not inherent.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

Angel's Advocate: If you've just admitted that adults couldn't predit their own emotional and mental well-being, they why should they get to override the girl's decision regarding hers?

You know the answer to that question. If you don't, think of your interactions with children and the stupid things that they generally think are soooooo important.

Originally Posted by christiangirl

Would your feelings on that change depending on what she chose?

No.

If that family decides she should have the child (and the state doesn't intervene) then that means the family will HOPEFULLY assist with prenatal care, raising the child, and the necessary counseling. I think that would be a dumb decision but it would hopefully be an adult-made decision.