10-year-old's pregnancy fuels Mexican abortion debate

[WinniBug]

Originally Posted by squirrely girl

Ummmmmmmm... allowing a TEN YEAR OLD girl to continue with a pregnancy is INSANE! I don't care where people fall along the abortion debate, but this is NOT SAFE. Pregnancy is HARD on an ADULT body, but a child?! WTF?!

I would think that the psychological repercussions of an abortion would be worse.

[I.A.S.K.]

Originally Posted by WinniBug

I would think that the psychological repercussions of an abortion would be worse.

Um. I'd have to say its not. I mean being upset about the abortion is better than being DEAD after attempting to deliver/delivering a baby.

[epchick]

10 year olds having babies in this day and age aren't as uncommon as people think it is. Sad, yet true.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by epchick

10 year olds having babies in this day and age aren't as uncommon as people think it is. Sad, yet true.

10 year olds have been having babies in underdeveloped countries for quite a while now. Some of the first tests with the Pill (back in the 1950s) were done in areas where girls were age 19 and had 8-9-10 kids.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by 33girl

10 year olds have been having babies in underdeveloped countries for quite a while now. Some of the first tests with the Pill (back in the 1950s) were done in areas where girls were age 19 and had 8-9-10 kids.

10 year olds might have been having babies for centuries but it still doesn't make it right. Rape, molestation, and incest have also been more common than thought of since the beginning of time but not many will argue that these things shouldn't be. A whole lot of things go on in the world that shouldn't. Just because societies come to accept horrible acts as "normal" doesn't mean that it's supposed to be. I will never be convinced that children should be pregnant or married, no matter the time period or culture. And you would think this would be "common sense" all over the world but it isn't.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

10 year olds might have been having babies for centuries but it still doesn't make it right. Rape, molestation, and incest have also been more common than thought of since the beginning of time but not many will argue that these things shouldn't be. A whole lot of things go on in the world that shouldn't. Just because societies come to accept horrible acts as "normal" doesn't mean that it's supposed to be. I will never be convinced that children should be pregnant or married, no matter the time period or culture. And you would think this would be "common sense" all over the world but it isn't.

I agree.

[christiangirl]

@the last few pages---holy trainwreck on a stick!

Originally Posted by violetpretty

Imagine being that "baby"...grown up. Imagine how you'd feel knowing you were the product of incest. That's something that therapy can not heal. Better to not bring that life into the world.

That's really sad. There are so many horrifying circumstances that can happen before/during our lives that therapy can't heal. It is ALWAYS tragic and heartbreaking. Yet somehow, we do heal (to the best of our ability) and most learn to survive, some of us even find it in ourselves to thrive. We can spout these statements here, but I doubt any of you walk up to any one of these incredibly resilient survivors, look into his or her eyes and say "it would have been better if you hadn't been born."

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

This is 100% madness on every level.

HELL to the YEAH

I think we all agree that an abortion can't (legally) happen this late in the game, so this is all hypothetical. She could be traumatized from being "forced" (assuming she doesn't want to keep it) to carry this baby but she can be traumatized after being "forced" (assuming she wanted to keep it) to go through an abortion. She'll have emotional scars from both giving up the baby and from raising it before she's ready. Some say she could die in "childbirth." Okay well due to her small pelvis, she'd probably need a C-section and the risk of death in that is about equal to the risk of death during a second-trimester abortion. She and the baby are currently healthy, but both a second trimester abortion and a C-section can lead to infection/sepsis, internal organ damage, bleeding out, and a crap load of other things that can lead to infertility. Can you imagine either becoming infertile while birthing a product of your rape or becoming infertile after ending the life of the one child you could ever have?

I can't even say what I'd like to see happen because, let's face it, this poor girl is screwed on all sides--I agree with DP in that she needs to be in therapy until she's 100. But for nearly every argument on one side, the same applies to the other side. I'm praying she has/will have a lot of support because she's going to need it.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by WinniBug

I would think that the psychological repercussions of an abortion would be worse.

What about the psychological reprecussions of being a child (allegedly) raped by your stepfather and forced to have that child, in addition to the physical hardships of pregnancy and childbirth on a child body?

[WinniBug]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

What about the psychological repercussions of being a child (allegedly) raped by your stepfather and forced to have that child, in addition to the physical hardships of pregnancy and childbirth on a child body?

I agree that rape's a horrible thing to happen to anyone, but nothing can be done about that NOW...what there is control over is whether the little girl has to live the rest of her life knowing she killed her little baby.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by WinniBug

I agree that rape's a horrible thing to happen to anyone, but nothing can be done about that NOW...what there is control over is whether the little girl has to live the rest of her life knowing she killed her little baby.

Its not "her baby." Neither party had intentions nor discussed who would have ownership over said baby. And the child wouldn't be killing her baby. If anything, (in this case) aborting this unborn child would be a small step in righting this wrong.

On the "if this was my child" side of things, I too would do/say/act however I needed to make sure my child could endure the least amount of trauma. Certainly, going through childbirth at 10, IMO is out the window, regardless if the child would be kept or given for adoption. She would have a lifetime membership on the couch and therapy on a consistent basis. Her views on men, sex (and sexual abuse), trust, her body, relationships, children/procreation, and abortion, etc are skewed forever, and I highly doubt her brain can act in a childlike manner much longer.

As a mother, I'd seek therapy as well.. imagine the mother's psyche: her baby has been deflowered and taken advantage of in the worst way by someone you loved/trusted. That has to screw with a mother's mind.

Were there any legal repurcussions for the mother? I highly doubt the stepfather's rape was a one-time thing. The mother seriously had no idea? (Excuse my ignorance as I didn't read the article)

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by WinniBug

I agree that rape's a horrible thing to happen to anyone, but nothing can be done about that NOW...what there is control over is whether the little girl has to live the rest of her life knowing she killed her little baby.

Imagine being that "baby"...grown up. Imagine how you'd feel knowing you were the product of incest. That's something that therapy can not heal. Better to not bring that life into the world.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

Imagine being that "baby"...grown up. Imagine how you'd feel knowing you were the product of incest. That's something that therapy can not heal. Better to not bring that life into the world.

Seriously: I'd much rather spare someone the feeling of not being properly cared for (financially, emotionally) because they werent exactly wanted/asked for.

[WinniBug]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

Imagine being that "baby"...grown up. Imagine how you'd feel knowing you were the product of incest. That's something that therapy can not heal. Better to not bring that life into the world.

It's not technically incest, they were not blood related.

Originally Posted by tld221

Seriously: I'd much rather spare someone the feeling of not being properly cared for (financially, emotionally) because they werent exactly wanted/asked for.

I'm not advocating the 10 yr old RAISE the child, just bring into the world the life that God has already begun. I'm all for adopting the baby out!


TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by WinniBug

It's not technically incest, they were not blood related.

I'm not advocating the 10 yr old RAISE the child, just bring into the world the life that God has already begun. I'm all for adopting the baby out!

TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!

So if it was technically incest (blood relatives), would you still insist on bringing a 3 eyed product of incest into the world?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by WinniBug

I'm not advocating the 10 yr old RAISE the child, just bring into the world the life that God has already begun. I'm all for adopting the baby out!


TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!

Not everyone thinks abortion is WRONG and that pregnancy is automatically a gift of life from God. I do not and that applies to anyone who wants an abortion.