kappa sigma at fgcu? - Page 20

33girl · #**286** 04-12-2010, 11:55 PM

It may be that the school has seen similar institutions that expanded their Greek systems too quickly, and ended up with messes. Sorry to say it, but if someone got burned further up the line, the people who come afterwards are the ones who have to deal with the medical bills.

I don't think that FGCU or the IFC is inherently anti-Kappa Sig, although that would be the easiest thing to believe....rather 1) they have learned from the mistakes of other schools and are being overly cautious and 2) as k_s said, there's stuff that isn't being mentioned here. Most sororities want there to be more fraternities...that's a no-brainer. If the sororities (and I don't mean a half dozen girls, I mean the sororities as groups) aren't supporting them, even under the table, that's a red flag as far as I'm concerned.

Rambler1869 · #**287** 04-13-2010, 08:18 AM

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2) as k_s said, there's stuff that isn't being mentioned here. Most sororities want there to be more fraternities...that's a no-brainer. If the sororities (and I don't mean a half dozen girls, I mean the sororities as groups) aren't supporting them, even under the table, that's a red flag as far as I'm concerned.

Think its safe to say, in any given situation there is always another part of the story. If there is something specific you're wondering about, let me know and I'll answer what I know about it.

As for the sororities as a group; I think it was discussed earlier that they can't due to various liabilities. However, here's something to consder... When I was an undegrad, it was a school policy regarding parties, that no matter where it was or who actually hosted the party, it was the guests perception of who's party it was, that the school went after. Meaning, that if 95 Pikes threw a party, and 5 Kappa Sigma's were there; if guests thought it was a Kappa Sigma party, it was in the school's eyes (I'm not saying I agree with that policy, but that is a different discussion). The point of bringing that up, is the whole idea of guilt by assocation. If there are known individual sorority members, from each sorority on campus that support these men, participate in their various functions, etc... I think that association is a good lead towards "under the table" support. As the organization itself cannot openly support, but individual members at large are there.

jennyj87 · #**288** 04-13-2010, 10:10 AM

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Think its safe to say, in any given situation there is always another part of the story. If there is something specific you're wondering about, let me know and I'll answer what I know about it.

As for the sororities as a group; I think it was discussed earlier that they can't due to various liabilities. However, here's something to consder... When I was an undegrad, it was a school policy regarding parties, that no matter where it was or who actually hosted the party, it was the guests perception of who's party it was, that the school went after. Meaning, that if 95 Pikes threw a party, and 5 Kappa Sigma's were there; if guests thought it was a Kappa Sigma party, it was in the school's eyes (I'm not saying I agree with that policy, but that is a different discussion). The point of bringing that up, is the whole idea of guilt by assocation. If there are known individual sorority members, from each sorority on campus that support these men, participate in their various functions, etc... I think that association is a good lead towards "under the table" support. As the organization itself cannot openly support, but individual members at large are there.

I beg to differ.

Rambler1869 · #**289** 04-13-2010, 10:25 AM

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I beg to differ.

Jenny, you may not want them there... your sorority may have asked or even told them to not be there... but I promise you, there are members of every single sorority at FGCU with the Kappa Sigma's at FGCU. Some are present at the car washes; some are at the philanthropy events, some signed Kappa Sigma's petition (despite that fact that one sorority threatened to fine any members who signed it); these are just a few examples of when these women are present, giving their support.

ThetaDancer · #**290** 04-13-2010, 11:15 AM

Is it my imagination or did the long-winded college student/KSig"advisor" delete a lot of his posts?

33girl · #**291** 04-13-2010, 11:57 AM

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Is it my imagination or did the long-winded college student/KSig"advisor" delete a lot of his posts?

All of page 18 doesn't have a post from him. So I suspect you are correct.

jennyj87 · #**292** 04-13-2010, 12:20 PM

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All of page 18 doesn't have a post from him. So I suspect you are correct.

That and the page count went from 22 to 20....

MysticCat · #**293** 04-13-2010, 01:14 PM

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That and the page count went from 22 to 20....

While his post count went to 2.

Can't help wondering if he was . . . encouraged . . . to take them down.

Rambler1869 · #**294** 04-13-2010, 02:15 PM

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This thread is way too long, Can I get the Cliff's notes version?

Cliff notes version... group of students wanted to bring Kappa Sigma to FGCU. FGCU did not want to expand. Kappa Sigma colonized at FGCU officially on Dec 10, 2008. The men havent broken any written policies of the university. FGCU does not recognize Kappa Sigma.

The discussion is really; should they be allowed to use school facilities? Should they recognized by FGCU and/or IFC?

Some say they should have waited; that they are "bullying" their way on to campus.

Kappa Sigma feels that it has certain rights to be there on campus and should be allowed to use school facilities (outlined during the thread).

Think that's as straight forward and non-biased I can get on this...

DrPhil · #**295** 04-13-2010, 03:34 PM

You mean, we didn't QFP for every post? Darn.

TSteven · #**296** 04-13-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambler1869

Think its safe to say, in any given situation there is always another part of the story. If there is something specific you're wondering about, let me know and I'll answer what I know about it.

Thank you for presenting the colony's point of view. It would be nice to have the University's reasoning behind what they have done/are doing (i.e. their "official" view). However, I doubt someone from the University will do so.

Regardless, I wish y'all the best and please come back and let us know how this plays out.