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Old 04-12-2010, 01:20 AM
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Hi Guys!

Well let me start off by saying that I'm a sophomore transfer student from a junior college who is trying to rush this quarter (Spring) with a fraternity. I didnt rush my freshman year since I was in a junior college, but now I want to do it because I want to have a great overall college experience.

Question #1:
I'm going to be honest with you guys and telling an embarrassing story for me. I rushed another frat last quarter (Winter) and got a bid and was set to go. It was great. One night though I was drinking with some of the brothers. It got out of hand (drinking-wise) and I knocked out. They got worried called a ambulance, someone drew on me, etc. I wake up in the hospital. Basically, they ended up on social probation for the rest of the quarter because of this and Nationals said I couldnt join because I was a risk. It was embarrassing, and I felt awful. Thats why I didnt rush anywhere else because I wanted to take punishment also for my actions in the incident.

I took the quarter off socially, but now I want to join a frat (obviously). A couple guys in the new fraternity know about what happened and understand that it was just a bad set of circumstances. That I shouldn't have had so much alcohol and they should have handled the situation better. The thing is that I dont go around telling every brother this story. Should I be more open about it? I'm not hiding it, but if no one asks I dont see why I need to blurt it out? What are your thoughts on this? Personally, it has helped make me a better person and a potential better brother.

Question 2:
I've only been to three rush events so far. A couple guys who I'm close with say I have a bid (when they hand them out) and while I believe them I'm also worried that I should be doing more. You see, when I first meet people I like to absorb everything at first. Learn people, surroundings, and attitudes before become more outgoing. I'm not anti-social by any means but I usually just stick to talking sports, pop culture, some jokes, and maybe some stuff about on campus. I don't totally loosen up for a while.

The frat I'm thinking about joining is filled with a lot of out going guys, and I'm just curious if this is normal for every rush when they first meet a fraternity? Do guys understand that it may take a couple weeks for people to open up completely. Like I was at a pregame, and I was talking to the brothers and someone was like "Go talk to some girls", but personally I just wanted to get to know the brothers better first and just play it chill.

The reason I'm real curious about this is because I'm curious if I'm outgoing enough to be in a fraternity. I'm a real chill guy who just likes to take it easy most of the time. With my close friends I can go crazy, but for the most part I like to be smooth about things. Idk. Any advice on expectations from rushes would be appreciated?

Ex: I went to a fraternity basketball game tonight. I said hi to all the brothers I knew, a couple other words, and just watched the rest of the game quietly only cheering when they scored. I dont want to come off as too pushy or trying to hard. I enjoyed the game, but wondered if some of the brothers wanted me to be more vocal and active?

Thanks for any advice guys. I appreciate it!
Q1:
I have no idea what your school's greek life climate, numbers, etc.. are like. But on my campus with 3 fraternities and 4 sororities (5 in the fall), word would have easily gotten around about you, especially if it resulted in social probation. Word spreads in the greek community on my campus fast.

If this is the same at your campus, then even without mentioning the story to anyone, they probably know. If other brothers know about your situation and they vote on you, they'll most likely tell the people when they are voted on. Each organization's voting methods vary, but with some one member's no vote can keep you out.

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Honestly, you're going to have to bust out of your shell. Rush is called rush for a reason; you don't have a lot of time. If someone tells you that you have a bid, I wouldn't take their word as gold. I've known people who thought they had bids to certain groups based on the word of a member, but it wasn't the case. Unless they've voted to extend a bid to you, nothing is guaranteed.

Again, how competitive is your campus? If you're on a campus that has low fraternity numbers, you'll probably be fine. But if your campus is very competitive, you need to do more than just be a face in the crowd. You need to try to hang out more often so that during voting people can vouch on your behalf.

It's really hard for anyone to give specific advice without knowing much about your campus. Though, revealing your campus information can be just as harmful. More collegians look at GreekChat than you might think.
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Old 04-12-2010, 09:51 AM
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Quite frankly, I don't know how guys deal with being at rush and trying to impress guys AND girls at the same time.

I think that you are perhaps being more cautious than you would normally be because of the bad experience you had. That's perfectly natural. Just remind yourself these are not the same guys - they sound like much nicer guys to me - and that you are not the same person, you've grown up. The fact that you took responsibility for your end of the deal speaks a lot to that.

Just try to take each experience as it's happening and don't get hung up on what was or what will be, and you'll most likely loosen up and have a better time.
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:00 AM
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People do get over scandals. If it was a one-time thing, and you otherwise are a normal, nice, friendly person, you can get past it.

You are really obsessing about this incident. If you focus on your mistake, so will everyone else. If you forgive yourself and move on, so will everyone else. Earn a new reputation by actions.
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