How do I start a high school fraternity

[Prettyface08]

Originally Posted by TKEsFreshPrince

I'm Black. But I'm not in a Black fraternity, nor am I in a fraternity that cares about race/religion/sexual orientation.
Did that register?

Eh, you should probably sit down somewhere and be quiet. This is your first warning.

[Fatal1913]

How do I start a high school fraternity

You cant. The End

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by ElleMason

This ORIGINAL POST QUESTION was dated back in 99. It is ashame the responses that were given. All the negative responses to an innocent question. All the innocent answers given a negative response. WOW! And this is who High School students look up too. Obviously, these kids want to follow in the footsteps of those college frats and sororities. That is why so many of them create these types of organization in High School. Some of these kids don't even have much to look forward to until something like this is created. So many students go on to college, sad to say, to experince that kind of thing. Some of them are not allowed to. Some of them cannot afford to. SO to have it in high school gives them a great appreciation for the history of Greek Organization. Do you realize without a lot of these high school step teams, some students and their parents do not even know about college Greek Organizations. Or they know about them and do not know the importance of them. I was shocked to see so many African American Greeks respond so negatively. Before your Greek Fathers and Mothers stood for this, African Americans had no voice. Do you realize that most of your freedom fighters were Greek? Today that is knowledge that those in high school need to know. It gets them ready for college. It gives them a sence of pride to be apart of changing history. I live in Ruidoso, New Mexico. Im originally from Houston. I stepped in high school. It was a great experience. I could not go on to college to do so as I planned because I became very very ill. My high school sorority was the closest I got to being apart of that freedom. I now am the sponsor for The Ruidoso Warrior Steppers. I have a Delta Sigma Theta Sponsor also. These kids have learned about so many of you and some of them have their favorites. I never fail to mention history. This town is so happy for this program. They have never been happier. What's interesting about my kids is that they stand for something. They stand for change and togetherness. I have only 3 blacks on the team. I have a mixture of Native Americans, Indian, Mexicans, and whites. And they all look up to you College Greeks. My 2 that are graduating have now started to look for Colleges with Greek Oganization so they can continue standing for what they believe in. I would hate for them to look at the responses for a simple question posted here. I welcome all responses, even the negative ones. Change has come. Welcome it! For without change, most of our special activites, college, high schools, middle school and whatever, would seize to exist...... Sorry if some words have been mispelled.

Hmm, not looking at colleges that will advance their career regardless of whether they have a strong greek system or not?

**Flashing back to 96**

"What you come to college for?"

"I'm the first in my family, want to pursue a career."

"I want to be a doctor."

"I want to be a (insert favorite frat/sorority)"

**Snapping back**

Wait sorry about that I'm back.

Okay there is sooo much wrong with this post. So much in fact that this should be quoted and posted everywhere of why there should not be High School Greeks.

[Fatal1913]

wow... i posted a response before I read everything.. this one took a turn! Funny!

[dreamseeker]

Originally Posted by Gusteau

Actually...



From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TKE). Not the best source, of course, but its pretty commonly known.

i don't think Vito was challenging him on that fact, but rather on the entire post. It was just weird.

[Gusteau]

Originally Posted by dreamseeker

i don't think Vito was challenging him on that fact, but rather on the entire post. It was just weird.

That's for sure, I just thought it was odd that he chose the most coherent thing in the post to emphasize in bold font. Other than that, let the mocking continue...

[ree-Xi]

Originally Posted by ElleMason

This ORIGINAL POST QUESTION was dated back in 99. It is ashame the responses that were given. All the negative responses to an innocent question. All the innocent answers given a negative response. WOW! And this is who High School students look up too. Obviously, these kids want to follow in the footsteps of those college frats and sororities. That is why so many of them create these types of organization in High School. Some of these kids don't even have much to look forward to until something like this is created. So many students go on to college, sad to say, to experince that kind of thing. Some of them are not allowed to. Some of them cannot afford to. SO to have it in high school gives them a great appreciation for the history of Greek Organization. Do you realize without a lot of these high school step teams, some students and their parents do not even know about college Greek Organizations. Or they know about them and do not know the importance of them. I was shocked to see so many African American Greeks respond so negatively. Before your Greek Fathers and Mothers stood for this, African Americans had no voice. Do you realize that most of your freedom fighters were Greek? Today that is knowledge that those in high school need to know. It gets them ready for college. It gives them a sence of pride to be apart of changing history. I live in Ruidoso, New Mexico. Im originally from Houston. I stepped in high school. It was a great experience. I could not go on to college to do so as I planned because I became very very ill. My high school sorority was the closest I got to being apart of that freedom. I now am the sponsor for The Ruidoso Warrior Steppers. I have a Delta Sigma Theta Sponsor also. These kids have learned about so many of you and some of them have their favorites. I never fail to mention history. This town is so happy for this program. They have never been happier. What's interesting about my kids is that they stand for something. They stand for change and togetherness. I have only 3 blacks on the team. I have a mixture of Native Americans, Indian, Mexicans, and whites. And they all look up to you College Greeks. My 2 that are graduating have now started to look for Colleges with Greek Oganization so they can continue standing for what they believe in. I would hate for them to look at the responses for a simple question posted here. I welcome all responses, even the negative ones. Change has come. Welcome it! For without change, most of our special activites, college, high schools, middle school and whatever, would seize to exist...... Sorry if some words have been mispelled.

"It gives them a sence of pride to be apart of changing history... My high school sorority was the closest I got to being apart of that freedom."

Changing history? How? And what freedom are you talking about? Did I miss the list inalienable human rights that being Greek affords?

"SO to have it in high school gives them a great appreciation for the history of Greek Organization."

NO, it doesn't. It's like playing house when your parents are away and you invite your boyfriend or girlfriend over. Stepping is NOT a substitution for not being able to go to college, afford membership, etc. The shared experience of working on something together is what makes the experiences special, not naming the group with Greek letters. Going to college and being in a Greek organization are just two paths in life. They aren't the only ones.

"I have only 3 blacks on the team. I have a mixture of Native Americans, Indian, Mexicans, and whites. And they all look up to you College Greeks."

Really?? What is the point of the racial breakdown? The kids look up to Greeks because of stepping? FYI, stepping is not even ONE of the purposes and reasons that NPHC organizations exist. It's something that was born out of their experiences and culture. I'm not a member of the NPHC, but I'm offended by the complete misinterpretation of their reason for being.

As for misspellings, this site has spell check.

I have a headache now. Ooops I mean Eta Epsilon Alpha Delta Alpha Chi Eta Epsilon.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Gusteau

That's for sure, I just thought it was odd that he chose the most coherent thing in the post to emphasize in bold font. Other than that, let the mocking continue...

I think it was because the Fresh Prince was intimating that TKE is the ONLY fraternity that does so, even nowadays. That, obviously, is far from the truth.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by TKEsFreshPrince

I'm Black. But I'm not in a Black fraternity, nor am I in a fraternity that cares about race/religion/sexual orientation.
Did that register?

Gee, I guess I need to reconsider the fraternity I'm in, because we discriminate so heavily.

Originally Posted by dreamseeker

i don't think Vito was challenging him on that fact, but rather on the entire post. It was just weird.

Originally Posted by Gusteau

That's for sure, I just thought it was odd that he chose the most coherent thing in the post to emphasize in bold font. Other than that, let the mocking continue...

Oh, what I mean was the "TKE is one of the few fraternities that doesn't discriminate." While historically that is true, it isn't the case any more and hasn't been for a decent amount of time.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Oh, what I mean was the "TKE is one of the few fraternities that doesn't discriminate." While historically that is true, it isn't the case any more and hasn't been for a decent amount of time.

But to be fair, he didn't say "is"; he did state it in the past tense:

I myself am an African American in one of the few fraternities that had no limitations in terms of race, color, creed, or sexual orientation.

That is, he kept it in the past tense until he responded to you:

I'm Black. But I'm not in a Black fraternity, nor am I in a fraternity that cares about race/religion/sexual orientation.

Continue.

[sgw1504]

Just don't. Wait 'til you get to college and let the anticipation build. Trust me... it's worth it.

[ree-Xi]

I was reading a book on Google Books, "Alpha Xi Delta Sorority" from 1905. It's a collection of letters and essays and "reports" on from the early years. In one section, they addressed High School sororities and how they are different from collegiate sororities/fraternities. Though it was written over 100 years ago, I think that it still applies:

"In school, groups of girls form into little "cliques" and it is from the most influential of these groups of congenial girls with the same circle of friends that a sorority is formed. Its object in nine cases out of ten is social, purely. Dances, afternoon gatherings and theater parties are its aims; a jolly time its one ideal. In most High Schools, only seniors are eligible for membership, so that the girls have only a short time to really know one another. At the end of the year they separate, some to go to college some to enter business, and all to broaden their horizon beyond the limits of school life.

How different this social club, for it is nothing more, is from our college sorority. In the one we are careless girls, in the other women; in the one we seek only for pleasure, in the other for something nobler; in the one we think only of ourselves, in the other we are taught to think of others; in the one we seek amusement, in the other truth.

In the High School Sorority we pledge ourselves to nothing, in the college to a life of devotion and loyalty. The two are alike in name only. In the former you know a few girls of your own age in a superficial way for one year, in the latter, you know women older than yourself to whom you look for example, and younger than yourself who look to you for guidance,; during many years, for what girl after four years of intimacy of sorority life could ever forget her "Frat"?

In the High School Sorority there is no idea of improvement of mutual help or of ethical elevation. In a National College Sorority there are all." *

Btw, there are books for several of the NPC sororities if you look at this link: http://books.google.com/books?id=p9sTAAAAIAAJ&dq=%22alpha+xi+delta%22+manu al&source=gbs_navlinks_s

*Official Organ of the Alpha Xi Delta Sorority, November 1905, Vol. III, pp121-122, Edited and Published by Eta Chapter Syracuse University Syracuse New York Office of Publication 707 Irving Avenue, Syracuse New York.