House passes health care bill on 219-212 vote

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

I believe Rush said that he would leave the country for his medical services. I think he mentioned Costa Rica where I believe he already has a vacation home. I am not 100% positive on this, though.

No, you're right.

CALLER: If the health care bill passes, where would you go for health care yourself? And the second part of that is, what would happen to the doctors, do they have to participate in the federal program, or could they opt out of it? [...]

LIMBAUGH: My guess in even in Canada and even in the UK, doctors have opted out. And once they've opted, they can’t see anybody Medicare, Medicaid, or what will become the exchanges. They have to have a clientele of private patients that will pay them a retainer and it'll be a very small practice. I don't know if that's been outlawed in the Senate bill. I don’t know. I'll just tell you this, if this passes and it's five years from now and all that stuff gets implemented — I am leaving the country. I'll go to Costa Rica.

Apparently, he missed the part where Costa Rica has universal, nationalized healthcare. But going there for his healthcare will show the socialists here.

What an absolute idiot.

[pbear19]

My Con Law class had a 8:00 a.m. makeup class today. And we've spent the first 40 minutes, and will presumably continue for the next 10, talking about nothing but the health care bill and how it relates to the commerce power and the issues of federalism we've been talking about.

Which is great, because this means I won't have to do any reading for our regular, non-makeup class later today. Yet another reason to love the health care bill!

[Prettyface08]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

She has a job. That means no time for searches! Or reading! Or comprehension!

We should take care of it, since we're all lazy and using up unemployment anyway.

Maybe I'm mistaken...but didn't this chick say that she DIDN'T have a job in that long drawn out thread about people who don't have jobs being lazy? I don't want to read through all of it but I swear I thought she said she quit her job and is now a full time student.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by pbear19

My Con Law class had a 8:00 a.m. makeup class today. And we've spent the first 40 minutes, and will presumably continue for the next 10, talking about nothing but the health care bill and how it relates to the commerce power and the issues of federalism we've been talking about.

Which is great, because this means I won't have to do any reading for our regular, non-makeup class later today. Yet another reason to love the health care bill!

I hope you aren't logging on during class.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by als463

As a proud member of Phi Mu, I have every right to put my signature on here. I would leave arguments in a thread if DS would do the same. I am allowed to have opinions of my own without you feeling the need to tell me when I can and cannot discuss them. Thanks, but no thanks.

As someone who is very involved with the Alumni chapters and her own collegiate chapter, I might just put my signature back in. I don't make Phi Mu look bad, people who go around complaining about not being able to find jobs with a college education (and years of experience) make their orgs. look bad.

I think this whole ObamaCare thing is stupid. I said it, I believe it. I don't give a damn if people in here appreciate my feelings, but last time I checked this was a chatroom for people to discuss their thoughts.

I just thought I'd QPF, even though she's already been quoted. I know there are Phi Mu Nationals members who lurk, specifically high up ones who happen to be from Michigan, who happen to know how bad our economy is and may have been affected by it. So, I'm glad you think highly of our sisters, because I am not the only one in this situation.

There's a reason why NPC orgs do not allow their members to wear letters on shows like The Real World. GC is getting just as bad and maybe they should start implementing (sp? wtf) that rule here. I cannot say how embarrassed I am right now.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Prettyface08

Maybe I'm mistaken...but didn't this chick say that she DIDN'T have a job in that long drawn out thread about people who don't have jobs being lazy? I don't want to read through all of it but I swear I thought she said she quit her job and is now a full time student.

I think you're right. She posted her resume` around the middle of that thread before the thread went further into fluff.

[Ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

What is Ghostwriter talking about?

And, going with the gang mentality, are you part of the rival gang now?

Because CLEARLY we've all lost our individuality and are buddy buddy since we happen to post within minutes and hours of each other and type similar things.

I rest my case. I must have hit a nerve as the usual suspects were the ones who responded.

Don't think I am in a rival gang yet. I am just defending someone who I believe was picked on and some of what she said was twisted and taken not as it was meant and/or out of context. It is not a matter of me believing what she said is right or not it is the way she is being treated. Perception is sometime the reality and some of you are perceived as bullies.



You may not realize what you are doing and you most likely don't even care. When all is said and done you can always throw up your hands and say it was all in good fun. You tried it before with me.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

I rest my case. I must have hit a nerve as the usual suspects were the ones who responded.

Don't think I am in a rival gang yet. I am just defending someone who I believe was picked on and some of what she said was twisted and taken not as it was meant and/or out of context. It is not a matter of me believing what she said is right or not it is the way she is being treated. Perception is sometime the reality and some of you are perceived as bullies.



You may not realize what you are doing and you most likely don't even care. When all is said and done you can always throw up your hands and say it was all in good fun. You tried it before with me.

Ghostwriter...puce pants and yellow shirts do NOT match and should never be worn by people with red hair. Did your mama not teach you anything?

[Ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Ghostwriter...puce pants and yellow shirts do NOT match and should never be worn by people with red hair. Did your mama not teach you anything?

LOL - Imagine my embarrassment. I pride myself on my natty attire, too! I try to watch ANTM and Project Runway as much as possible!

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by epchick

This is not directly towards you, but if I get a spray tan and I'm not a different color, I'd be PISSED. I'm white to begin with and if I'm the same 'color' after the spray tan, what's the point? The point is to get that bronze/brown color, not to look the same.

The point is to look naturally different and everyone I know who tries to look 3 shades+ different ends up orange. I haven't seen a successful spray tan (that means natural looking) that did anything more than bronze someone's skin. The $10 stuff I use says "3 shades deeper". It's not. I look like I've spent the day outside, not like I've actually been tanned, but for $10 once a month/2 months that's ok with me. I doubt my friends would notice if I didn't use it, and none of them know I do unless I tell them. Three shades deeper would probably look orange. The Lindsay Lohan/Jersey Shore look isn't the right way to do it.

Originally Posted by honeychile

I have been to tanning beds twice in my life. Why? To go from pasty white to off white. What did I pay for it? Skin cancer. Needless to say, I'm totally against tanning beds.

That said, I'm against the tax on them. It's easy to tax something that doesn't directly affect you, but then there's a tax on something else, then something else, until finally, you're taxed outrageously for something.

Let's not get our kicks on yet another new tax, people.



[Okay, my inner Libertarian came out to play - doesn't mean I don't believe it!]

Cigarettes get that extra tax and I doubt it's going to keep people from starting, but it's definitely an extra incentive to quit. I picked up that habit too and it definitely made a huge difference in my finances once I quit. It causes cancer (as my doctor says "think of it as not if but when") and is bad for anyone who is around it, so I didn't mind it being taxed when I did smoke and I don't mind it now...so I guess I'm kind of throwing tanning into the same category. It seems like cosmetic issue to many people but it's just as dangerous as smoking, and personally I'm hoping this will help educate/remind people it isn't the same thing as using bronzer.

I've already had to have a couple of spots removed and go to my dermatologist twice a year to get checked on top of wearing sunscreen at all times and I'll be really lucky if I never get skin cancer. I'd much rather have a few scars than up my risk of developing skin cancer. I don't have an excuse for ever tanning because I was just being a stupid teenager, thinking "it won't happen to me", but because tanning doesn't have the stigma of smoking with the general public there's some element of danger removed, when it shouldn't be. It needs that stigma.

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

You can seriously make NO connection to outward personal appearance and the issues you mentioned, not one? If you're feeling bad as a result of my post, maybe you need to figure out how some anonymous person on line can do that if you take so much pride in all of these things to make yourself look and feel good. Have you never seen an orange person outside of a Willy Wonka movie?

You are still completely missing the point, and I'm glad other people are getting it because I thought I wasn't making myself clear. And no, a spray can tan is not the same as UV protection, sorry.

Healthy glow, your words, not mine.

Trust me, I don't feel bad about myself in the least, but I think your attitude is unfortunate because it's just irrational. I never once said a spray mist is UV protection. I wear a moisturizer with sunscreen every day and sunscreen on top of that when I'm going to be outside for a while. I recommend everyone do that even if they don't tan-I do have a family member that is young, didn't tan, was careful about sunscreen at all times because they burned easily, that still got skin cancer. But obviously tanning beds increase that chance. A lot. So, once again, I'm against that. But I can't understand why you judge women that use make up, spray mist or hair products. Is nail polish the devil, too?

There are much bigger problems like pressure to be unnaturally thin, pressure to get cosmetic surgery, pressure to go sit in a cancer box, etc. Railing against people who use safe and healthy ways to feel well groomed and cute is ridiculous. I wish young women would be encouraged to play with make up, a Neutrogena spray tan, correctly fitting clothing, and some styling products to help them understand there's absolutely no need for radical and invasive cosmetic procedures, tanning beds, unhealthy eating habits, and damaging chemical straightening or perming. There's nothing wrong with using none of those things either (except the healthy eating habits, obviously), but there's nothing wrong with USING safe and fun alternatives, either, and what I can't understand at all is your judgment of people who wear make up, nail polish, style their hair, or use a Neutrogena spray mist. Wearing make up doesn't indicate that a woman doesn't like herself, and throwing it into the same category as tanning doesn't help anyone feel better about themselves. So no, I do not see a connection between spray tan and horrible self esteem issues.

There is nothing at all un healthy about a healthy, sprayed on glow, face powder, or nail polish.

[DaemonSeid]

...all in the kool aid...

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

...all in the kool aid...

and don't even know the flavor.
What is the flavor today? Cherry?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

and don't even know the flavor.
What is the flavor today? Cherry?

It's not cherry, it's red

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

It's not cherry, it's red

I like red! Better than purple koolaid...yuck!

[Prettyface08]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I like red! Better than purple koolaid...yuck!

That's because you've never had it mixed with lemon kool-aid

/ducking back out of thread/