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Old 03-21-2010, 10:30 PM
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There is a relationship between higher education and socioeconomic status, which is correlated with quality of life. None of these automatically result in HAPPINESS.
So true, according to an article I read a few years ago. The article followed about 20 winners of the Florida Lottery. None of them was really *happy* even though they had a drastic improvement in socioeconomic status. More than a few of the winners said their life was much worse since they had money and some even stated that they wish they hadn't won.
More education and a better quality of life, however defined, is a good thing, though.
Food for thought...
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:42 PM
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So true, according to an article I read a few years ago. The article followed about 20 winners of the Florida Lottery. None of them was really *happy* even though they had a drastic improvement in socioeconomic status. More than a few of the winners said their life was much worse since they had money and some even stated that they wish they hadn't won.
Wow. This general topic would make a good thread.

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More education and a better quality of life, however defined, is a good thing, though.
Food for thought...
The bolded is a good thing, especially when the other option is being murdered or sentenced for drug trafficking or possession.
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:49 PM
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I read another article about this school, and from what I understand, the average ACT score for the graduating class was a 15!!!

Thats dismal. That means a lot of these students arent prepared for college level work.

Getting these men into college was a good start (though not everyone is meant for college), but I'm concerned of how well they'll do there academically.

Oh well...at least it start....
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:07 AM
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I read another article about this school, and from what I understand, the average ACT score for the graduating class was a 15!!!

Thats dismal. That means a lot of these students arent prepared for college level work.

Getting these men into college was a good start (though not everyone is meant for college), but I'm concerned of how well they'll do there academically.

Oh well...at least it start....

"The average ACT score of Urban Prep's all-black male student body -- 16.1 -- is below the Chicago Public Schools average of 17 ...Johns Hopkins seemed more impressed with [one graduate's] 3.8 GPA and his extracurricular activities than his ACT, said Henderson, who will probably attend another college that is offering him a better financial package. "The ACT does not determine how smart you are,'' he said."


I grew up in a rural setting...my mother is an educator...so, I had someone who stayed on my a$$ and wouldn't accept anything less than honors or AP courses.

These children come from an urban/inner-city setting, and I'm quite sure that they do not have the exposure, resources or home environment conducive to academic success.

This is a start...they can only improve from here...
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:39 AM
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"The average ACT score of Urban Prep's all-black male student body -- 16.1 -- is below the Chicago Public Schools average of 17 ...Johns Hopkins seemed more impressed with [one graduate's] 3.8 GPA and his extracurricular activities than his ACT, said Henderson, who will probably attend another college that is offering him a better financial package. "The ACT does not determine how smart you are,'' he said."


I grew up in a rural setting...my mother is an educator...so, I had someone who stayed on my a$$ and wouldn't accept anything less than honors or AP courses.

These children come from an urban/inner-city setting, and I'm quite sure that they do not have the exposure, resources or home environment conducive to academic success.

This is a start...they can only improve from here...
I agree with you 100%! You have to start somewhere..and maybe the younger graduating classes will improve.

And also thanks for finding the correct statistic...I was lazy and should have looked it up.
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Old 03-23-2010, 10:34 AM
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I was about to say that it seems that the true test of success is the boys' making it through college, and not just being accepted. Wealthy private schools will accept students like these, who may not be as qualified, but won't provide them with the tools that they lacked in their early education that will allow them to actually succeed at these colleges.

Has anyone read "A Hope in the Unseen"?

That said, it's great that these young men graduated from high school. College isn't for everyone; if they join the military, acquire a trade, or even get vocational training, they can support themselves well.

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Old 03-23-2010, 12:18 PM
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Maybe I missed it somewhere, so please let me know if I did. Didn't it say that at the beginning of their senior year, a large portion of the class could barely read? If that is the case, how did they pass their senior classes and make it that far through the process? It sounds that if a school acknowledged a large portion of their kids could barely read by the time they got into their senior year of high school, this school has been "pushing" their students through the system. That is a shame, if that is the case.

If the school did such a disservice to these young men, I feel sorry for their futures at such good universities.
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Old 03-23-2010, 12:35 PM
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Maybe I missed it somewhere, so please let me know if I did. Didn't it say that at the beginning of their senior year, a large portion of the class could barely read? If that is the case, how did they pass their senior classes and make it that far through the process? It sounds that if a school acknowledged a large portion of their kids could barely read by the time they got into their senior year of high school, this school has been "pushing" their students through the system. That is a shame, if that is the case.

If the school did such a disservice to these young men, I feel sorry for their futures at such good universities.
At the beginning of their FRESHMAN year, a large portion could not read AT GRADE LEVEL.
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