Tom Delay: People Are Unemployed Because They Want To Be

[knight_shadow]

I just recently applied for and interviewed for a job (closer to my home than my current job and more growth potential). After interviewing with 12 () people and being told by a member of senior management (old college professor) that I was a "favorite" during the interviews, I was told that I didn't get it because I was overqualified. Even though they preferred degreed candidates, they were afraid that I would quickly get tired of this entry-to-mid level position.

I wish some of these folks who could "run out and find a job RIGHT NOW" would interview for "lower" jobs so they can see how it REALLY is out there.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

Tom will be arriving at this station in about 45 minutes due to debris on the track.

There was a Tom delay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by Prettyface08

Since when does drug dealer = ghetto? Not all drug dealers are 'ghetto'. Is it that you just don't like the Ghetto ones? Or is it that you consider anyone who sells drugs ghetto? Serious questions.

Since when has there been different kinds of drug dealers? Drug dealing is drug dealing. Which, to me, equals ghetto. Ghetto, trailer trash, and low class people don't have a color, to me. Max targets one race of people, and it's not based on race. Low class is low class, regardless of anyone's race.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Since when has there been different kinds of drug dealers? Drug dealing is drug dealing. Which, to me, equals ghetto. Ghetto, trailer trash, and low class people don't have a color, to me. Max targets one race of people, and it's not based on race. Low class is low class, regardless of anyone's race.

I think she's trying to say that "ghetto" doesn't automatically mean "drug dealer"

There are people from ghettos who turn out ok. There are also people from affluent neighborhood who end up selling drugs or being bad seeds.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I think she's trying to say that "ghetto" doesn't automatically mean "drug dealer"

There are people from ghettos who turn out ok. There are also people from affluent neighborhood who end up selling drugs or being bad seeds.

o.k. well, this. I was just trying to get Max to see that low class doesn't mean "African American". Max constantly relates black people to low class, and welfare, and I was just trying to get Max to understand that low class welfare users are not always black.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I was just trying to get Max to understand

Ain't gonna happen, cap.

Max isn't here to understand. He's just here to rile people up.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Ain't gonna happen, cap.

Max isn't here to understand. He's just here to rile people up.

I don't think Max is trying to get people upset, I think he really believes what he post.

And PrettyFace08, I'm really sorry about relating "ghetto" with drug dealing. I was wrong. It's just that I was only trying to get Max to see that the "race" of people who he's called "ghetto" on several occasions, are actually smarter than (and not lazy) the "trailer trash" that he seems to leave out of his posts. He doesn't get that it works that way with every race of people.

[ZTAngel]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

Godspeed asshole.

Quote of the day.

Originally Posted by Kevin

But I get to watch as my money is spent on this crap and then I, who will still be gainfully employed for the rest of my life, will get to bear a lot more than my fair share in paying it back.

I sure hope so, Kevin, but you can't always anticipate the curve balls life will throw at you. Your dad's law firm could get hit with a major malpractice suit and go bankrupt. I've seen it happen. Or maybe you lose your license to practice law for some reason. In a situation like that, I would hope you'd take your own advice and start washing windows or mowing lawns. Maybe then you'd see that the unemployment situation isn't all that cut and dry.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Porn

No way my ex-husband would NOT qualify for that.. absolutely no way.

As an employee of the largest health care system in Michigan, we have had layoffs, reductions in vacation time, benefits and retirement matching. There have been several articles that have indicated that the nursing shortage is over. We get an average of 500 applicants for each single job posted. It's to the point that external postings are only put up for one day because HR can't handle the volume of resumes that come in if it's up there longer. We are only able to directly replace. New positions are only approved if they are 100% funded by soft (grant) money. I will attest that health care is not all wine and roses right now either.

The max unemployment benefit is $1400 a month. That's about $8.00 an hour. People with higher degrees who were making significantly more money are NOT satisfied living with that income.

There are many services that our taxes pay for that we, as individuals, may never use. I, for example, don't ever expect to need a public defender since I'm never going to break the law (although I could be wrongly accused, I imagine). There are other services we, as individuals, may utilize more than someone else. It's a wash in the end.

Ford Motor Credit just announced 900 more white collar layoffs. Ugh.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Ggirl617

If I really needed to, I could go out and get a job today. It might not be anything I want, but at least something. Is this not true for everyone (save the mentally and physically handicapped)?

You could get a job, but you might only be offered 10 hours a week. That isn't enough for anyone (save college student home for break living with parents) to live on.

Part time work used inappropriately is one of the things that's killing this country.

[libramunoz]

Originally Posted by Kevin

So if I haven't personally experienced something, I can't talk about it? I've never been charged with a crime or been sued or been divorced, but people pay me good money to opine about that... guess I need to find a new job.

Ah okay, so it's not your fault. I get that. Is there a time when at least some of the blame for this situation shifts to you? Or is it never anyone's own fault that they don't have a job?

In a simple answer, NO, NO, NO!

But if you were to ACT like a human, you can EMPATHIZE with others that are in this situation. You can discuss how You could potentially help them. You can help to try and understand their situation!

But in order to do this, YOU HAVE TO GET OUT OF YOUR OWN LITTLE WORLD AND JOIN THE REST OF US! You are going to have to see BEYOND what your world has limited you too, and see that the world goes beyond that scope, because right now, it's a very, very, very limited scope that you're looking through and at.

When you approach someone who is unemployed as though they are a pathetic peon in your view, then you will get a rash of abuse hurtled at you with the force of a javelin coming towards your head.

You have to learn how to be human and just learn how to empathize with a person, not persecute(?) them, which your posts are doing.

Now this is the first part of your question, now here's the second--

Originally Posted by Kevin

Ah okay, so it's not your fault. I get that. Is there a time when at least some of the blame for this situation shifts to you? Or is it never anyone's own fault that they don't have a job?

You egotistical twit! Hell no this had NOTHING TO DO WITH ME!!!!!! So damn sorry to burst your bubble! I didn't tell my ex boss to steal 8 million dollars from Medicaid! I didn't tell her to scam the government! I didn't tell her to underpay her employees! And I damn sure didn't tell her illegal ass to stay in this country when she was supposed to have been deported in 1992!

Now tell me, Mr. Wannabe Silverplated spoon, how in the hell is this my fault? What in the hell did I have to do with her and her decisions? Where in the hell did I go wrong other than apply to work with her butt and stay there? HUH!!!!!! Where in the hell am I to blame in this? If you can answer that you're a good one!

I have been unemployed before, and yes, I did and DO take RESPONSIBILITY for myself and FOR MY ACTIONS!!!! I admit where I did and didn't go wrong. I admit what I could have done better and how I could have made a difference. IN OTHER WORDS, YES I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MYSELF AND MY ACTIONS.

But for YOU to ASSUME that I am unemployed because I a) want to be, b) this is MY FAULT, and c) I desire to remain unemployed, you are crazy stupid nuts!

You don't KNOW someone's SITUTAITON until you are in there or YOU HAVE HEARD THEM. Stop being an ASS through ASSUMING, because this time, you aren't making an ass out of me, but you're CONFIRMING THAT YOU'RE AN ASS THROUGH YOURS!

To answer your last question, you'd have to ask individual unemployed people in order to get your answer. Try just becoming a person and asking instead of your usual, ASSUMING.

[lovespink88]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

That's how I feel about people now wanting to be teachers. Do you know how many people I know who get laid off call me and say: "I just got laid off. How do I become a teacher?"

I'm nice about it, but I'm thinking, "You won't last a week."

A little late in replying to this post, but so true.

My boyfriend is a history/secondary education major and the job hunt is not going well for him at all.

He just went to a career fair here at school--he said last year close to 200 districts (not all from Illinois) were at the fair...this year there were 60.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I think she's trying to say that "ghetto" doesn't automatically mean "drug dealer"

There are people from ghettos who turn out ok. There are also people from affluent neighborhood who end up selling drugs or being bad seeds.

The majority of "ghetto" residents are law abiding citizens but whether they turn out "ok" depends on what resources are available.

Cheerfulgreek isn't talking about the neighborhood "ghetto" and is speaking figuratively, equating "criminality" with a "ghetto" mindset.

I see what she means, although her language would be subject for a huge debate in some professional and nonprofessional settings.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

The majority of "ghetto" residents are law abiding citizens but whether they turn out "ok" depends on what resources are available.

Cheerfulgreek isn't talking about the neighborhood "ghetto" and is speaking figuratively, equating "criminality" with a "ghetto" mindset.

I see what she means, although her language would be subject for a huge debate in some professional and nonprofessional settings.

I understand the difference

That post was more informational than anything.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by libramunoz

In a simple answer, NO, NO, NO!

But if you were to ACT like a human, you can EMPATHIZE with others that are in this situation. You can discuss how You could potentially help them. You can help to try and understand their situation!

So then you can stay on the dole indefinitely and it's never your fault. If that rationalization helps you sleep at night, well Godspeed.

I imagine that the majority of the unemployed were originally laid off through no fault of their own, that is obviously not something within their power. How hard they work at gaining further employment and what opportunities they choose to accept and what sorts of compromises they're willing to make are well within their power, however.