Tom Delay: People Are Unemployed Because They Want To Be

[agzg]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I never mentioned anything about unemployed people on facebook.

Originally Posted by agzg

In general, and not really directed toward you, PiKA:
I also don't think it's particularly fair to bash people for getting on facebook or what have you. When I was unemployed, I did the bulk of my resume sending in the evenings/late at night. I would spend pleeeeenty of time online doing other things (greekchat, facebook, twitter, whatever) because there's only so much TV you can watch in a day. Also, I think people downplay multitasking. How long does it take to update a facebook status? 5-30 seconds? Does that really take a super huge chunk out of applying time?

RIF.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by agzg

RIF.

I read it the first time dipshit, you said, not really directed toward you PiKa. If the statement is "not really" directed towards me then why even mention me or facebook when responding?

[LatinaAlumna]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

but it's my life experiences that brought me here. Degrees don't equal skills, I'm sorry.

I like to ask unemployed grads what they studied in school, and it's usually something along the lines of art history or Chicano studies. That's great if you want to study that for personal enrichment but to expect to get a viable career out of it is unrealistic in my mind.

Do you ever proofread your "arguments" to see if they make sense? LMAO!

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Maybe jogging in circles is fun to them.

I believe you are correct.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by LatinaAlumna

I believe you are correct.

It is also fun for some of us, apparently. I was in lurk mode but "it keep callin me...callin me...."

[PiKA2001]

[QUOTE=LatinaAlumna;1906471]Do you ever proofread your "arguments" to see if they make sense? LMAO!



What's the matter, hit too close to home?

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

What's the matter, hit too close to home?

PiKA2001, I think both our arguments are hitting too close to home. When people grasp at straws trying to find something, anything to refute or invalidate our points, we must've hit a nail on the head somewhere.

[LatinaAlumna]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

What's the matter, hit too close to home?

People who cannot make solid arguments, and proceed to contradict themselves in the same paragraph live nowhere close to my home.

Furthermore, anyone who went to a top tier university would know that theory and critical thinking are emphasized over practical job-related skills at the undergraduate level (with the exception of a handful of majors such as accounting). I am sorry that you were not aware of this, but I'm not surprised.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by LatinaAlumna

People who cannot make solid arguments, and proceed to contradict themselves in the same paragraph live nowhere close to my home.

Furthermore, anyone who went to a top tier university would know that theory and critical thinking are emphasized over practical job-related skills at the undergraduate level (with the exception of a handful of majors such as accounting). I am sorry that you were not aware of this, but I'm not surprised.

When/ where did I contradict myself and who said I was making an argument?I was expressing my view on the subject at hand BASED on my own PERSONAL experiences in the job market. If you were referring to my comment about certain degree programs not "paying out" , well I stand by that statement. I'd rather attend an IBEW tradeschool than pay for a worthless degree from any top tier school.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Degrees don't equal skills, I'm sorry. I like to ask unemployed grads what they studied in school, and it's usually something along the lines of art history or Chicano studies. That's great if you want to study that for personal enrichment but to expect to get a viable career out of it is unrealistic in my mind.

Excellent, excellent point.

And THIS, m'friends is where the disconnect is. When colleges went from being institutions of higher learning where you learned a field of study for personal enrichment to being white collar trade schools under the guise of such (with colleges turning into big money businesses), then the market was obviously going to get saturated with a lot of educated but unskilled or limited-skilled individuals, leaving some people to be simply without a career-oriented job, hence at least part of the problem we're having today.

[Prettyface08]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

Excellent, excellent point.

And THIS, m'friends is where the disconnect is. When colleges went from being institutions of higher learning where you learned a field of study for personal enrichment to being white collar trade schools under the guise of such (with colleges turning into big money businesses), then the market was obviously going to get saturated with a lot of educated but unskilled or limited-skilled individuals, leaving some people to be simply without a career-oriented job, hence at least part of the problem we're having today.

Both of you, Shut.Up. There are people on here who have stated they have degrees in business, social work, some type of health related field, etc. KAPital, you should probably be hustling instead of being on GC.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by Prettyface08

Both of you, Shut.Up. There are people on here who have stated they have degrees in business, social work, some type of health related field, etc.

So? With all that education, you should be able to find a skill to market yourself with, and also know how to market yourself effectively. Sounds to me like I hit a nerve and you can't handle it.

Originally Posted by Prettyface08

KAPital, you should probably be hustling instead of being on GC.

Believe it or not, I actually am doing it while online; I'm just on lunch break for the moment.

[Prettyface08]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

So? With all that education, you should be able to find a skill to market yourself with, and also know how to market yourself effectively. Sounds to me like I hit a nerve and you can't handle it.



Believe it or not, I actually am doing it while online; I'm just on lunch break for the moment.

Dang it! I saw that you still posted after this, I was so hoping you choked on your lunch...

[AGDee]

And, quite frankly, social networking can also be about job networking. The first thing I told my ex when he got laid off was to start telling EVERYBODY he knew that he was laid off and looking. When jobs DO open up, the people who are working at the company know about them first, are often willing to hand deliver a resume or give their boss a heads up that someone they know, who would be a good fit in their team, is applying. Relatives, former classmates, and friends are invaluable resources in your job hunting. When I hear of someone leaving (and know that they are going to replace that person), I definitely inform people I know who are currently laid off and offer to assist them by mentioning them to the supervisor who will be doing the hiring.

One of our hospitals is closing its inpatient units and I have a friend who is a contingent CTRS there. I know my old supervisor from another hospital in our system is always in need of contingents. My friend mentioned that she put in for a spot at the other hospital and I immediately emailed my old supervisor, gave her my friend's name, told her of the work we had done together at two different hospitals and she immediately responded saying "HR hasn't sent me the info on her yet, but when can she start and how many hours can she work?" I know Linda will hire Denise because she valued ME as an employee and trusts that someone I worked well with and have respect and admiration for professionally will be a good fit for her too. Who you know can be far more important than anything else when job hunting. Facebook and Twitter are ways to stay in touch with those you know, so you are on their radar when they hear of something. It is the BEST way of setting yourself apart from the other 299 people who are applying for the same job.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Hey, I heard that workout plan is pretty good. I heard if you follow it, you'll be the envy of all your friends. You could end up with a rapper, an NBA player, or a guy with a car at the very least.

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

OH.

MY.

GAWD.

*DEAD*

Upon further reflection (ie; procrastinating for exam review) I have come to the belief that for Generations X & Y it is the fault of drag queens why we don't understand the concept of how to find employment. RuPaul started it with telling us that we "Better Work" and that's great if we were going to be Super Models of the World. Furthermore this NSFW youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CJbm4N4Hb4 is doing the same thing over 15 years later, not explaining what "work" is for those of us who are not gender illusionist performers or going by the name Miss Thing. I've been working on my runway walk and my sashay and shante, when I should have been getting interview and resume skills.

I'm about to snatch someone's wig off for all this wasted time

[DrPhil]

Okay, so fuck Tom Delay and those who agree that the average unemployed person is so because he/she thinks it's a kick-ass way to be.

On another note....

MSN's Love Your Job in 4 Steps:

http://msn.careerbuilder.com/custom/msn/careeradvice/viewarticle.aspx?articleid=2193

The part that stood out most to me and speaks to this thread:

4. Just do it
Get disciplined and don't allow self-doubt to keep you from moving forward.
· It's not personal: Don't let false pride slow you down. Get your face or résumé in front of every friend or prospective career opportunity.
· Run the numbers: Get as many interviews and résumés sent as possible. Make it fun! Run up the numbers.
· Be proud of every "No": Don't fret over rejections; it will only diminish your self-confidence.