Dating and finances

[33girl]

Originally Posted by starang21

a woman shouldn't be opening doors for a man, nor should a woman be carrying the majority of the bags. of course there should be common sense and moderation, but to say that everything a man is supposed to do, a woman is as well is silly. gender roles or duties exist. it's life.

Your post doesn't make sense. I said if a man is carrying tons of bags (because he's probably stronger than the woman, which is a biological thing), it's asinine for the woman to stand there like a lump and wait for him to open the door FOR HER. Unless it's a 250 pound door.

Dee - one of the things that used to drive me crackers was in the elevator, how men would stand to the side to let women out. Problem was, sometimes they ended up squishing you into the side and/or making you walk awkwardly around them. Seriously dumbass, just GET OUT OF THE FREAKING VATOR.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Your post doesn't make sense. I said if a man is carrying tons of bags (because he's probably stronger than the woman, which is a biological thing), it's asinine for the woman to stand there like a lump and wait for him to open the door FOR HER. Unless it's a 250 pound door.

Dee - one of the things that used to drive me crackers was in the elevator, how men would stand to the side to let women out. Problem was, sometimes they ended up squishing you into the side and/or making you walk awkwardly around them. Seriously dumbass, just GET OUT OF THE FREAKING VATOR.

Our elevators at work close REALLY fast so when people do that kind of stuff, the doors will close and nobody got to get out. It's so silly. I think men do it to make us brush up against them, honestly!

[starang21]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Your post doesn't make sense. I said if a man is carrying tons of bags (because he's probably stronger than the woman, which is a biological thing), it's asinine for the woman to stand there like a lump and wait for him to open the door FOR HER. Unless it's a 250 pound door.

how does it not make sense? i said

a woman shouldn't be opening doors for a man, nor should a woman be carrying the majority of the bags. of course there should be common sense and moderation

your statement falls under "common sense and moderation." what is hard to understand about that?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by starang21

how does it not make sense? i said



your statement falls under "common sense and moderation." what is hard to understand about that?

Because I said nothing about a woman carrying the majority of the bags.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Because I said nothing about a woman carrying the majority of the bags.

and? i did. your statement didn't apply to my statement. do you disagree with my statement?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by starang21

and? i did. your statement didn't apply to my statement. do you disagree with my statement?

It's not a matter of disagreeing, it's a matter of it not relating to the example or argument I offered. It's like I said "black or white?" and you said "hippo."

This is by far the dumbest fight I have ever had on Greek Chat.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by 33girl

It's not a matter of disagreeing, it's a matter of it not relating to the example or argument I offered. It's like I said "black or white?" and you said "hippo."

This is by far the dumbest fight I have ever had on Greek Chat.

my statement was in response to

What DrPhil is trying to say is the same things should apply for everyone.

i said that carrying the majority of the bags should be done by the man and thus should not apply to the woman.

if this is a fight by your definition, then you need to get out more.

[BrandNewAdvisor]

From the Emily Post Institute: The Finer Points of Dating Courtesy—Gender Neutral

"Holding the door: Whoever gets to the door first holds it for others. Getting off an elevator: The person closest to the door exits first.
Helping to put on a coat: Anyone having trouble putting on a coat or sweater should receive some help, regardless of gender.
Paying for a meal: Whoever does the inviting does the paying...
Helping to carry something: A neighbor or coworker—anyone—who is overloaded with books or packages will appreciate an offer of help from whoever is nearby."


There are etiquette rules that don't make presumptions about gender roles. I do agree with them, gender equality means equality in all areas not just when it's advantageous. There's nothing wrong with low key dates, especially the first few, there's way less pressure that way and it doesn't come off as trying to show off. I don't think I've ever paid for a first date, but I've also never asked anyone out on the first date and I always offered to chip in.


How does it work for same-sex couples or any of the alternate non traditional gender identifying couples, do polygamous couples all just split it? I can imagine that would get complicated...

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Because I said nothing about a woman carrying the majority of the bags.

Are they shopping bags?

With shoes?

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Are they shopping bags?

With shoes?

Let's say she buys a purse and it goes into a shopping bag. If he offers to carry the bag for her, is that the same as "holding her purse?" What if the bag is clear (so everyone can see there's a purse in there)?