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					Originally Posted by SthrnZeta  Sprite felt the need to "fix" it well after the final competition. That was just dumb. |  Disputing scores is not uncommon at these shows.
 
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					Originally Posted by SthrnZeta  Then perhaps AKA should have educated the Zetas when they taught them how to step 16 years ago... |  Who's to say they didn't?
		 
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					Originally Posted by SthrnZeta  Sprite felt the need to "fix" it well after the final competition. That was just dumb. |  That's true. They should  have had a good ole 'step off' between the co-winners and let the most creative team win    
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					Originally Posted by knight_shadow  Disputing scores is not uncommon at these shows. I didn't know that before reading this thread - it's a strange concept to someone like me who has little experience with step shows.  I still feel like Sprite should have reconciled this sooner than they did if AKA and ZTA truly deserved to share the 1st place win or if AKA deserved to be the only team taking 1st place.
 
 
 Who's to say they didn't?  Whether they did or they didn't (we really have no way of knowing short of having one of those AKA sisters here on GC to respond), I for one believe that the ZTA chapter members that compete next year should and will come up with a wonderfully unique and winning routine next year, especially in light of all this controversy over their win this year and AKA should do the same - then and only then will it be a fair competition.
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					Originally Posted by Prettyface08  That's true. They should  have had a good ole 'step off' between the co-winners and let the AKAs  win   |  Fixed that one.  
  
Am I the only one who is still amused by people saying: 
"I don't know jack about stepping and I don't know jack about step shows but ZTA was the best.  They were totally awesome!"
 
Watching ZTA reminded me of KidzBopKids except KidzBop might be a bit more original.  I mean at least they take songs made in the last decade. lol. I can hear their stepcoach announcing now: 
"Next years routine will include hot new features like: 
The Ivy Stance 
Pretty Girls wear Crowns 
The Duck Walk 
Twirling Canes 
That leaningbacktogetherinaline thing they do"
  
In summation: Next years Show will be called "Bring it On: Step up to the Challenge" lol. 
AKA: You better bring it. (flips hair)   
ZTA: Its already been brought! (rolls neck like a 1 month old baby)
		 
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					Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.  Fixed that one.  
 Am I the only one who is still amused by people saying:
 "I don't know jack about stepping and I don't know jack about step shows but ZTA was the best.  They were totally awesome!"
 
 Watching ZTA reminded me of KidzBopKids except KidzBop might be a bit more original.  I mean at least they take songs made in the last decade. lol. I can hear their stepcoach announcing now:
 "Next years routine will include hot new features like:
 The Ivy Stance
 Pretty Girls wear Crowns
 The Duck Walk
 Twirling Canes
 That leaningbacktogetherinaline thing they do"
 
 In summation: Next years Show will be called "Bring it On: Step up to the Challenge" lol.
 AKA: You better bring it. (flips hair)
 ZTA: Its already been brought! (rolls neck like a 1 month old baby)
 |  I know you're not pointing your finger at me for that one - you'd definitely be putting words in my mouth there. 
 
I am coming at this as an outsider and I admit that. Do I think the Zetas looked great and was I entertained by their routine - absolutely.  BUT, we are all going to naturally root for our own orgs, that's only natural.  You can't fault GCers from ZTA and other NPC orgs for congratulating ZTA, especially those of us not familiar with stepping.
		 
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					Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.  In summation: Next years Show will be called "Bring it On: Step up to the Challenge" lol.AKA: You better bring it. (flips hair)
 ZTA: Its already been brought! (rolls neck like a 1 month old baby)
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					Originally Posted by SthrnZeta  I know you're not pointing your finger at me for that one - you'd definitely be putting words in my mouth there. 
 I am coming at this as an outsider and I admit that. Do I think the Zetas looked great and was I entertained by their routine - absolutely.  BUT, we are all going to naturally root for our own orgs, that's only natural.  You can't fault GCers from ZTA and other NPC orgs for congratulating ZTA, especially those of us not familiar with stepping.
 |  It didn't sound like that was directed at you. You are at least acknowledging that you're not an expert and seem open to learn.
 
Some other folks on here are like "I don't care if I have absolutely no idea what's going on. The ZTAs were the best steppers ever! They were so unique! Anyone who thinks otherwise is racist!"
		 
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					Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest  We are the "new" old school.  |  SPRING 91 REPRESENT!!!
 
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					Originally Posted by SthrnZeta  I am coming at this as an outsider and I admit that. Do I think the Zetas looked great and was I entertained by their routine - absolutely.  BUT, we are all going to naturally root for our own orgs, that's only natural.  You can't fault GCers from ZTA and other NPC orgs for congratulating ZTA, especially those of us not familiar with stepping. |  Perhaps rooting for your own org is natural, perhaps not. But the whole point is that people, not necessarily just you, keep saying ZTA deserved the win, ZTA was the best, the rules were unclear, there were no rules, when this has been proven not to be the case. If you and other NPCers want to root for ZTA just because, that is fine, no one can tell you not to. The problem is when after having admitted that you are unfamiliar with step shows/the process and being provided with valid information as to why the win was in fact "suspect" you're (general you) making claims about what should have happened with zero knowledge base to make said claim.
		 
			
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by knight_shadow  Go 'head and just stay in the corner LOL
 
 
 It didn't sound like that was directed at you. You are at least acknowledging that you're not an expert and seem open to learn.
 
 Some other folks on here are like "I don't care if I have absolutely no idea what's going on. The ZTAs were the best steppers ever! They were so unique! Anyone who thinks otherwise is racist!"
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I feel like Sprite handled this all sorts of wrong and I hope they learn from this year and make some corrections in next year's competition.
 
At the risk of sounding corny...  Don't hate! Educate!    
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					Originally Posted by SthrnZeta  At the risk of sounding corny...  Don't hate! Educate!   |  There's a lot of educating going on. Several people choose not to read the information.
 
Thank you for being the exception    
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					Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.  Fixed that one.  
 Am I the only one who is still amused by people saying:
 "I don't know jack about stepping and I don't know jack about step shows but ZTA was the best.  They were totally awesome!"
 
 Watching ZTA reminded me of KidzBopKids except KidzBop might be a bit more original.  I mean at least they take songs made in the last decade. lol. I can hear their stepcoach announcing now:
 "Next years routine will include hot new features like:
 The Ivy Stance
 Pretty Girls wear Crowns
 The Duck Walk
 Twirling Canes
 That leaningbacktogetherinaline thing they do"
 
 In summation: Next years Show will be called "Bring it On: Step up to the Challenge" lol.
 AKA: You better bring it. (flips hair)
 ZTA: Its already been brought! (rolls neck like a 1 month old baby)
 |  SEE! LOL, I was trying not to go there, I was being fair. To the bolded, please, just no. 
 
The Bring it on reference is hilarious....that's my movie, though   
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					Originally Posted by knight_shadow  Go 'head and just stay in the corner LOL
 It didn't sound like that was directed at you. You are at least acknowledging that you're not an expert and seem open to learn.
 
 Some other folks on here are like "I don't care if I have absolutely no idea what's going on. The ZTAs were the best steppers ever! They were so unique! Anyone who thinks otherwise is racist!"
 |  Man, Im never gonna get out of here.  Its cool though because there's gonna be a sountrack to next years show and they're gonna call it 
 "Step Up or Step Off: The Official Bring It On Soundtrack" 
It'll feature tracks like: 
Brick House 
Got to Be Real 
Atomic Dawg 
Candy 
Da Sigma Walk 
Pretty Girl 
Ice Cream Paint Job 
**ZTA special request songs to go with their 90s routine: 
No Matter What They Say (Lil Kim) 
Hard Knock Life (JayZ) 
OPP [Renamed OPS] (Naughty by Nautre) 
Gettin Jiggy Wit It (Will Smith)
  
*All songs will be performed by: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5UBeQcgjs 
And as far as the "I dont know jack comments" those weren't directed at you SthrnZeta.
		 
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					Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.  Man, Im never gonna get out of here.  Its cool though because there's gonna be a sountrack to next years show and they're gonna call it 
 "Step Up or Step Off: The Official Bring It On Soundtrack" 
It'll feature tracks like: 
Brick House 
Got to Be Real 
Atomic Dawg 
Candy 
Da Sigma Walk 
Pretty Girl 
Ice Cream Paint Job 
**ZTA special request songs to go with their 90s routine:
No Matter What They Say (Lil Kim) Hard Knock Life (JayZ)
 OPP [Renamed OPS] (Naughty by Nautre)
 Gettin Jiggy Wit It (Will Smith)
 
*All songs will be performed by: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5UBeQcgjs 
And as far as the "I dont know jack comments" those weren't directed at you SthrnZeta. |  No, no, no, no, nooooooooooo LOL
 
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					Originally Posted by PiKA2001  I hate to say it but if I truly wanted to experience my grandmothers heritage I'd have to hop a flight to Italy, there's no place here in America that I'd be able to experience it. |  Ever heard of "Little Italies" that exist in many large urban centers?  Large urban centers have places that are epicenters for racial, ethnic, and cultural identities (not for every group, but for those that have the largest concentration of members who wish to retain their identity).  These places exist so that people wouldn't have to leave America to experience their culture.  
  
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