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Old 03-01-2010, 03:58 PM
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Missed the point as always. Why do WE teach them and in some cases, seek others out to teach???? That is the question.

Other cultures don't share like we do. Read the entire post again and try answering the question again.
I know I'm late and maybe you all have moved on. Forgive me I did read the end and this was the topic but since starting at the beginning it may have changed.

What you are describing is what we Spike Lee calls the Magic Negro syndrome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_negro

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The magical negro is typically but not always "in some way outwardly or inwardly disabled, either by discrimination, disability or social constraint," often a janitor or prisoner.[5] He has no past; he simply appears one day to help the white protagonist.[6] He sometimes fits the black stereotype, "prone to criminality and laziness."[7] To counterbalance this, he has some sort of magical power, "rather vaguely defined but not the sort of thing one typically encounters."[6] He is patient and wise, often dispensing various words of wisdom, and is "closer to the earth."[2]
The magical negro serves as a plot device to help the protagonist get out of trouble, typically through helping the white character recognize his own faults and overcome them.[2] Although he has magical powers, his "magic is ostensibly directed toward helping and enlightening a white male character."[5] It is this feature of the magical negro that some people find most troubling. Although from a certain perspective the character may seem to be showing blacks in a positive light, he is still ultimately subordinate to whites. He is also regarded as an exception, allowing white America to "like individual black people but not black culture."[8]
We complain about it when we see it on film, but it is actually based on real life. A lot of times you gotta look into the psyche of why somebody does that. Is it that they feel if they teach this, then we will be more accepted by the mainstream? Who knows. At the end of the day the question has to be asked, will said teaching allow them to like me or like my culture and take an interest in my culture?
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Old 03-01-2010, 04:21 PM
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We complain about it when we see it on film, but it is actually based on real life. A lot of times you gotta look into the psyche of why somebody does that. Is it that they feel if they teach this, then we will be more accepted by the mainstream? Who knows. At the end of the day the question has to be asked, will said teaching allow them to like me or like my culture and take an interest in my culture?
Yes, it actually could. If the people of the world closed their culture off to others it would just breed even more misunderstanding and distrust.

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Old 03-01-2010, 05:01 PM
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Mama chimes in

First, I did read this entire thread and pledged DST Spring '91 so please don't interrupt, just let Mama get two words in.
I was excited about the step show and MTV coverage because this is the first time since 1992 that D9 organizations were allowed to perform in our letters (please find threads about Stomp the Yard to know a little of our copyright infringement drama). I loved that alumnae chapters scurried to help collegiates score mounting service hours. It was clearly marketed as a D9 event. I even remembered wondering if frats like Sigma Phi Rho and other non D9, predominantly African American orgs would be able to step.
So....
Being around long enough to witness the cultural theft and rendering down of every other African American art form, I knew who'd win the show upon the first pilot. I hoped it wouldn't be so, but some things are formulaic that way.

There was a post about when do other cultures feel flattered. As an American Indian/African American mixedblood, I'll dare speak for all American Indians and say "NEVER". Flatter me by upholding treaty rights, slaying Indian mascots and asking what I am before assuming I speak Spanish. My African ancestors will never be flattered by Taiwanese imported Kente and superficial "Unity" steps or step shows. If NPC orgs want to unify with D9 orgs, pick a corner in South Dallas, South Philly, Harlem, South Central L.A., the or South Side of Chicago (hmm, see a trend) and do the grass root community service we do. Check writing is nice, but a day in a women's shelter goes so much further.

What's to come of all this? Perhaps Sprite and MTV will rethink their profit methods, but judging by The Jersey Shore, that won't happen too soon. I'm sure we can expect UC San Diego's Pi Kappa Alpha dressed up as Bruhs next year, planning on "bringing it". If and when that happens maybe folks will see that a post racial America does not exist.

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Old 03-01-2010, 11:21 PM
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First, I did read this entire thread and pledged DST Spring '91 so please don't interrupt, just let Mama get two words in.
Thanks for chiming in Soror.

For the record, you may be older than your fellow 90's BGLOers in this thread (including myself), but "mama" is reserved for Soror ladygreek who gets the ultimate Seasoned Soror deference.
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Old 03-01-2010, 11:26 PM
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Thanks for chiming in Soror.

For the record, you may be older than your fellow 90's BGLOers in this thread (including myself), but "mama" is reserved for Soror ladygreek who gets the ultimate Seasoned Soror deference.
LOL, thanks! I love being junior to somebody. I get real tired of people thinking the 90's is old school!
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:44 AM
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LOL, thanks! I love being junior to somebody. I get real tired of people thinking the 90's is old school!
We are the "new" old school.
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:47 AM
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We are the "new" old school.
Because we have over 10 years of membership.

We know who not to pull the "experienced" and "deference" card with.
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Old 03-02-2010, 03:43 PM
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We are the "new" old school.
SPRING 91 REPRESENT!!!


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Old 03-02-2010, 01:12 AM
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Thanks for chiming in Soror.

For the record, you may be older than your fellow 90's BGLOers in this thread (including myself), but "mama" is reserved for Soror ladygreek who gets the ultimate Seasoned Soror deference.
Awww shucks now.
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:48 AM
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I know I'm late and maybe you all have moved on. Forgive me I did read the end and this was the topic but since starting at the beginning it may have changed.

What you are describing is what we Spike Lee calls the Magic Negro syndrome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_negro



We complain about it when we see it on film, but it is actually based on real life. A lot of times you gotta look into the psyche of why somebody does that. Is it that they feel if they teach this, then we will be more accepted by the mainstream? Who knows. At the end of the day the question has to be asked, will said teaching allow them to like me or like my culture and take an interest in my culture?
Thanks. This is what I was thinking about. Should've known that Spike Lee could break it down (as he sees it of course).
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