Student suspended for facebook slam against teacher

[Ooh La La]

I am not saying that these cases directly prove what I'm trying to say, but that aspects of them relate, which I probably should have been more clear about before. Facebook is so new, that this could potentially end up being the first major trial to set future precedent.

To lighten the mood, has anyone seen this?
http://thenextweb.com/2009/08/09/not...-fb-bitch-job/

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Ooh La La

Facebook is so new . . . .

No lie. In the other thread, when you mentioned high school teachers trying to friend you, I felt very old. I mean, when I was in high school, "facebook" meant an actual book with pictures of people's faces in it so you could identify them.

[srmom]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

No lie. In the other thread, when you mentioned high school teachers trying to friend you, I felt very old. I mean, when I was in high school, "facebook" meant an actual book with pictures of people's faces in it so you could identify them.

Too true!! Here's a sure-fire way to get your kids off facebook - get all the parents to join and then "friend" their friends

Back to this situation. In my day, the way something like this would have been handled is by the principal sending the kid to the football coach for swats - that was the universal punishment for boys. I heard the paddle had holes in it for aerodynamics.

That's how lessons were learned in the dark ages.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by srmom

Back to this situation. In may day, the way something like this would have been handled is by the principal sending the kid to the football coach for swats - that was the universal punishment for boys. I heard the paddle had holes in it for aerodynamics.

The aerodynamics allows for the paddle to swing faster and also distributes the swat over a smaller area. A properly designed paddle can allow a typing teacher to swat like a PE teacher with a non-holed padded and a PE teacher to raise welts...

[srmom]

Originally Posted by naraht

The aerodynamics allows for the paddle to swing faster and also distributes the swat over a smaller area. A properly designed paddle can allow a typing teacher to swat like a PE teacher with a non-holed padded and a PE teacher to raise welts...

You speak as if you have experience with this. Were you the swatter or the swattee?

[ree-Xi]

Originally Posted by naraht

The aerodynamics allows for the paddle to swing faster and also distributes the swat over a smaller area. A properly designed paddle can allow a typing teacher to swat like a PE teacher with a non-holed padded and a PE teacher to raise welts...

Originally Posted by srmom

You speak as if you have experience with this. Were you the swatter or the swattee?

[UGAalum94]

I think schools are probably better off ignoring "Mr. So and So is an idiot" facebook comments or pages unless the comments made on them rise to the level of slander or libel or if it would meet an off-campus real world standard for threatening behavior.

Just as it would be counter productive to invest a lot of time monitoring lunch and hallway conversations or even the occasional in class comment for non-threatening negative comments about teachers, it doesn't make sense to schools to get into trying to monitor the web, even if the 1st amendment issues could be cleared up.

Sure, it hurts your feelings to have a hate group made about you, but you look like a bigger idiot when you get all wrapped up what's being said about you by 16 year-olds on facebook.

If, for some reason, the comment actually does create an on campus disruption, then deal with the disruption as a disruption, not the comments themselves.

And any school system that isn't blocking facebook on campus pretty effectively for at least the non-tech-geek students is probably missing the boat, if only to avoid having to deal with the bs that eighth grade girls are going to post about each other.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by srmom

You speak as if you have experience with this. Were you the swatter or the swattee?

Actually came from a discussion with someone trying to sell an Alpha Phi Omega paddle on eBay with a description that made it clear that his primary audience in trying to sell in was to the BDSM crowd.

What I found out later in trying to find out how I could make this unlikely to occur again is that due to advancements in the technology of paddles, the only time the obvious fraternity paddles are used in the BDSM community is if the person's particular kink is pretending to be in a hazing situation. This is almost exclusively gay BDSM since co-ed fraternities are relatively rare and didn't become more common until the use of paddles started to decline and sorority hazing as a kink is as far as I can tell is less likely to use paddles. So, the easiest way to get old Alpha Phi Omega paddles less likely to be sold that way is to point out that we are currently co-ed.


Also, I honestly feel that I have learned *more than enough* about this topic.

[DrPhil]

Wise school officials address issues at the front-end rather than after the consequences of the issues take form. That is also why teachers K-12 and collegiate are advised to notify the proper officials if they receive questionable correspondence or are aware of something on or off the Internet that MIGHT be inappropriate. It is much easier to punish and teach lessons now, just in case, than to try to calm a school disruption. No one can predict school disruptions and control whether there will be any substantive harm caused.

One of the worst things in the world is when something happens and people reflect and say "well, he did create that fan page a few weeks ago....." Duhhhhh...does someone have to urine in your drinking glass for you to acknowledge that urine is an undesirable beverage?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by srmom

Too true!! Here's a sure-fire way to get your kids off facebook - get all the parents to join and then "friend" their friends

I've used better ways to keep a kid off of myspace and facebook. Seriously.

I agree with sigmadiva about post-Columbine and I think it's a mixture of that and changing standards for an Internet generation. When I was in school (and those of you who are gracefully older ) these things didn't exist and parental and school supervisorswere preoccupied with "real life" interactions and troubles.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Ooh La La

To lighten the mood, has anyone seen this?
http://thenextweb.com/2009/08/09/not...-fb-bitch-job/

You should've thought about keeping the mood light before you tried to assume how I felt about kids.

But, it all makes sense now that we know that you aren't too much older than a high schooler.