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02-23-2010, 10:27 AM
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I just saw one of the videos, and I was extremely shocked. I'm with SD1920 in that the D9 was used to promote their reality show, and no...they do not understand the true history behind the organizations.
My great-grandmother used to say, "be careful when they befriend you...they will only try to use you... or try to steal your thunder." However, in this case, we handed it right to them.
Most of us that "step" these days have not been educated on the intense spiritual and emotional kinship associated with the rhythms and moves of a routine.
Most of us that "step" these days are totally unaware of the struggle...and the fact that Negro organizations were born (partly) out of strong resistance to Negro membership by white groups.
For some reason, it seems as if stepping has been reduced to merely a fun dance routine - that everyone wants to learn...participate in...and look "cute" in. It's soooo not about that.
The result of this competition is what happens when you do not teach and embrace your history...it's what happens when some of us sell our souls in search of acceptance.
*never give anyone your thunder*
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02-23-2010, 10:45 AM
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...and the fact that Negro organizations were born out of strong resistance to Negro membership by white groups.
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It's interesting that no one ever has any evidence to show that a black person was ever even interested in pledging a white fraternity or sorority in those days.
We know it's a fact that blacks weren't welcome, but that doesn't suggest that our organizations were born of the notion of being unwelcome.
BGLOs created the blueprint for a new TYPE of fraternity all together. Alpha was born as a study club and evolved into a fraternity which performed public programs, community service, and dedicated itself to social justice internally and externally.
"White" fraternities were not doing this. And that's fine. But again, doesn't mean that my founders were snubbed and did their own thing. It means that something different was necessary, so something different was created -- not something new was created because they were excluded.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, but there really is a difference.
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02-23-2010, 11:13 AM
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It's interesting that no one ever has any evidence to show that a black person was ever even interested in pledging a white fraternity or sorority in those days.
We know it's a fact that blacks weren't welcome, but that doesn't suggest that our organizations were born of the notion of being unwelcome.
BGLOs created the blueprint for a new TYPE of fraternity all together. Alpha was born as a study club and evolved into a fraternity which performed public programs, community service, and dedicated itself to social justice internally and externally.
"White" fraternities were not doing this. And that's fine. But again, doesn't mean that my founders were snubbed and did their own thing. It means that something different was necessary, so something different was created -- not something new was created because they were excluded.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, but there really is a difference.
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I agree but I think it's more about the fact that if we wanted to join them, we couldn't. Also, I think people assume that since many Blacks back then wanted to integrate with Whites and be accepted by them, that we probably wanted to be in their orgs at first or that we would've jumped at the chance had they been open to it, though of course we haven't discovered any proof of this..
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02-24-2010, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Senusret I
It's interesting that no one ever has any evidence to show that a black person was ever even interested in pledging a white fraternity or sorority in those days.
We know it's a fact that blacks weren't welcome, but that doesn't suggest that our organizations were born of the notion of being unwelcome.
BGLOs created the blueprint for a new TYPE of fraternity all together. Alpha was born as a study club and evolved into a fraternity which performed public programs, community service, and dedicated itself to social justice internally and externally.
"White" fraternities were not doing this. And that's fine. But again, doesn't mean that my founders were snubbed and did their own thing. It means that something different was necessary, so something different was created -- not something new was created because they were excluded.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, but there really is a difference.
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Thank you. I have seen this argument a couple of times, and it is just so wrongheaded, certainly where my sorority is concerned.
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02-24-2010, 09:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senusret I
It's interesting that no one ever has any evidence to show that a black person was ever even interested in pledging a white fraternity or sorority in those days.
We know it's a fact that blacks weren't welcome, but that doesn't suggest that our organizations were born of the notion of being unwelcome.
BGLOs created the blueprint for a new TYPE of fraternity all together. Alpha was born as a study club and evolved into a fraternity which performed public programs, community service, and dedicated itself to social justice internally and externally.
"White" fraternities were not doing this. And that's fine. But again, doesn't mean that my founders were snubbed and did their own thing. It means that something different was necessary, so something different was created -- not something new was created because they were excluded.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, but there really is a difference.
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PREACH!!!!
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02-24-2010, 11:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senusret I
It's interesting that no one ever has any evidence to show that a black person was ever even interested in pledging a white fraternity or sorority in those days.
We know it's a fact that blacks weren't welcome, but that doesn't suggest that our organizations were born of the notion of being unwelcome.
BGLOs created the blueprint for a new TYPE of fraternity all together. Alpha was born as a study club and evolved into a fraternity which performed public programs, community service, and dedicated itself to social justice internally and externally.
"White" fraternities were not doing this. And that's fine. But again, doesn't mean that my founders were snubbed and did their own thing. It means that something different was necessary, so something different was created -- not something new was created because they were excluded.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, but there really is a difference.
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I went back and edited my post to read that they "...were born (partly) out of strong resistance..." - not entirely.
I didn't intend for that to be interpreted so literally.
Also, I didn't want to highlight every social concern (internal and external), or catalyst of that time period.
You're right, something different was necessary...the same reason why Black Student Unions...or Miss Black American Pageants were formed. It's about celebrating and embracing from within...but let's not kid ourselves...there are quite a few who are very lost, and still feel the need to seek acceptance.
I agree...we created the blueprint for a new TYPE of fraternity/sorority...and we should continue to maintain and conduct ourselves like the grand architects (that we are) of that design. Knowing your history is knowing your worth...
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02-24-2010, 11:22 AM
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I didn't intend for that to be interpreted so literally. 
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Why the hell are you yelling?
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02-24-2010, 11:30 AM
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Why the hell are you yelling?
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All caps are yelling...I was emphasizing my point...but I see that will have to compose clear and concise postings in the future.
The font has been modified...
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02-24-2010, 11:33 AM
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I didn't intend for that to be interpreted so literally. 
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Why the hell are you rolling your eyes?
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02-24-2010, 11:41 AM
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Why the hell are you rolling your eyes?
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What next, bruh? You gonna send me on a run for some beer, chicken and ice? LOL!! I hate da bruhz...but I love the Frat!!
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02-24-2010, 11:44 AM
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I hate da bruhz...but I love the Frat!! 
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I'm starting to think you're neither.
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02-24-2010, 11:55 AM
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I'm starting to think you're neither.
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On the internet...on a greek chat network?
You've got to be kidding me...LMAO!
Bruh, I'm past the foolishness stage...
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