Epsilon chapter on MTV2 tomorrow

[SthrnZeta]

While I understand the cultural significance and history of stepping to NPHC orgs (thanks to Ludacris explaining it on the show and my fellow GCers), this particular competition was open to all orgs. So I say, if you can do it well enough to win, then you should win, regardless of which council your org is in.

GO ZTA!

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by SthrnZeta

While I understand the cultural significance and history of stepping to NPHC orgs (thanks to Ludacris explaining it on the show and my fellow GCers), this particular competition was open to all orgs. So I say, if you can do it well enough to win, then you should win, regardless of which council your org is in.

GO ZTA!

This is not the issue. There are a whole lot of different feelings out there from the D9. Some really don't care and actually agree with you, some feel that non-D9 orgs should not share in our tradition at all, some feel that only D9 should have participated in this particular show since the money pot was so big and we are the ones that have made stepping what it is today and also were used to heavily promote this event, some take issue with the fact that many non-D9 orgs that are embracing stepping today have no idea of the history or tradition, and many other feelings.

Also stepping is about innovation, creativity, and originality and some are quite pissed that ZTA brought nothing new and instead used all D9 steps in their show, even the stepping on the raised platform. Some say that if the judges were greek and not celebrities, that they would not have won doing other orgs' steps which is not looked upon favorably by those that know and appreciate stepping. So this is what all the feelings are about.

But I say congrats to ZTA. I just hope they will bring the creativity and originality next year. I think more people will respect their performance then. However, I can't be too supportive when you are doing steps that have been in my org for years and yes they had a little bit of everyone's steps in there. Most non-D9 step teams study us but make up new moves if they care about not copying and disrespecting us. ZTA needs to do the same.

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

Also stepping is about innovation, creativity, and originality and some are quite pissed that ZTA brought nothing new and instead used all D9 steps in their show, even the stepping on the raised platform. Some say that if the judges were greek and not celebrities, that they would not have won doing other orgs' steps which is not looked upon favorably by those that know and appreciate stepping. So this is what all the feelings are about.

But I say congrats to ZTA. I just hope they will bring the creativity and originality next year. I think more people will respect their performance then.

^^^THIS!

This debate is getting on my nerves already, and I just stumbled upon it last night. Both extremes of the debate are driving me insane right now.

As someone who has both created, learned, performed and judged performance routines, albeit not stepping, but ones in which the scoring categories are pretty much the same, i think ZTA performed really well. With few exceptions their timing and precision was great, they were in fact entertaining, good costumes, etc. But even before reading comments and such, I sat through almost the entirety of their routine like, "I've seen the Alphas do that, the Ques, do that, etc. etc." Their creativity in the routine was pretty much nil.

If this is in fact a successful event next year, and they participate, I agree with rhoyaltempest and hope they bring new material to the stage.

[SthrnZeta]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

This is not the issue. There are a whole lot of different feelings out there from the D9. Some really don't care and actually agree with you, some feel that non-D9 orgs should not share in our tradition at all, some feel that only D9 should have participated in this particular show since the money pot was so big and we are the ones that have made stepping what it is today and also were used to heavily promote this event, some take issue with the fact that many non-D9 orgs that are embracing stepping today have no idea of the history or tradition, and many other feelings.

Also stepping is about innovation, creativity, and originality and some are quite pissed that ZTA brought nothing new and instead used all D9 steps in their show, even the stepping on the raised platform. Some say that if the judges were greek and not celebrities, that they would not have won doing other orgs' steps which is not looked upon favorably by those that know and appreciate stepping. So this is what all the feelings are about.

But I say congrats to ZTA. I just hope they will bring the creativity and originality next year. I think more people will respect their performance then. However, I can't be too supportive when you are doing steps that have been in my org for years and yes they had a little bit of everyone's steps in there. Most non-D9 step teams study us but make up new moves if they care about not copying and disrespecting us. ZTA needs to do the same.

Well said.