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02-18-2010, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06
This.
If she generalized her statements and simply wanted to bring a new NPC on campus, that's one thing. But we've already seen one too many threads here where girls have said, "My friend is in this sorority at another school, so I want to be in it, too!" or, "I only like that sorority, so I need to figure out how to get it here."
Expansion simply doesn't work that way.
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Why would it have been better if I generalized my statements just to bring any NPC sorority to my school? Just any sorority with no knowledge of what they stand for, any group will do? I don't really have a romanticized idea of what expansion is, clearly; I came here seeking help from people who may have seen it and been through it, but the majority of the responses I've received really do sound (to me anyway) like "don't bother, its too hard."
If all the NPC groups were the same, your own founders never would have started new orgs, and you probably wouldn't be wherever you are now. Thank you to those who were supportive, but I guess I can't get help here. Thank you anyway.
Edit: also; I've already stated before; my reason for wanting to bring a new chapter to my school has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with hoping everyone in my chapter or colony will be my "BFF". I do not 100% support and identify with the already present sororities philanthropies, mission statements, and purposes. I simply felt I found a more appropriate match for me and yes; it is based on the contents of a website, but isn't that how most people expand??? There would be NO PURPOSE for expansion WHATSOEVER if all groups were, as more than one person mentioned, "basically the same".
Again, thank you.
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02-18-2010, 03:17 PM
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I don't really have a romanticized idea of what expansion is, clearly
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You didn't really have a strong understanding of how expansion works. Clearly.
When people tried to tell you about the process (which is difficult, particularly if you have your heart set on one particular group, we're in an economic recession, and your campus has unique circumstances), they weren't trying to be Debbie Downers who just want you to take the easy way. They were trying to paint a realistic picture of the process.
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02-18-2010, 04:52 PM
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I am curious which school this is...or actually, which NPC groups are presently there.
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02-18-2010, 05:05 PM
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I am curious which school this is...or actually, which NPC groups are presently there.
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From her name, I'm guessing she is at St. Joseph's University in Philadelphia, PA. If I am right, then the NPCs that are presently there are:
Alpha Gamma Delta
Alpha Phi
Sigma Sigma Sigma
This leads me to also think that she must be a complete airhead. All three of these organizations have something great to offer. Both AGD and Alpha Phi were founded at Syracuse University (a very good school-I'm bias, though because my boyfriend attends that school). Tri-Sigma has "The Robbie Page Memorial (Providing play therapy for terminally ill children" as their philanthropy.
Alpha Phi supports American Heart Association's "Go Red" philanthropy, as well as, they have their own foundation.
Alpha Gamma Delta also has its own foundation.
Each of these NPCs has great tag lines and incredible chapters nationwide. I am annoyed she thinks she is too good to join any of these GLOs.
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02-18-2010, 05:17 PM
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I am annoyed she thinks she is too good to join any of these GLOs.
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I don't think saying you didn't feel a connection with 3 chapters, which isn't exactly a huge number to choose from, is the same thing as saying you're too good for them. The OP may be being a little "orthodox" insisting that she completely connect with the chapter's mission, philanthropy, values, etc. but she never disparaged any of these groups or said she felt she was superior to them in some way.
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02-18-2010, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by als463
From her name, I'm guessing she is at St. Joseph's University in Philadelphia, PA.
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Actually, I think it's St John's U in Staten Island. They have 2 NPCs, one NPHC (3 nationals, she didn't say 3 NPCs) and a ton o' locals. The locals are the distinguishing factor.
The presence of NPCs is very new at the school.
ETA: Waiting for people to look at the sororities and have a "national tier discussion" ensue.
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02-18-2010, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 33girl
Actually, I think it's St John's U in Staten Island. They have 2 NPCs, one NPHC (3 nationals, she didn't say 3 NPCs) and a ton o' locals. The locals are the distinguishing factor.
The presence of NPCs is very new at the school.
ETA: Waiting for people to look at the sororities and have a "national tier discussion" ensue.
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I don't know what school she is from, but if we're talking St. John's in Staten Island, they just added Tri Sigma in 2009. I don't think they're looking at expansion right now.
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02-18-2010, 10:14 PM
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Can't Identify with THESE Philanthropies?
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Originally Posted by 33girl
Actually, I think it's St John's U in Staten Island. They have 2 NPCs, one NPHC (3 nationals, she didn't say 3 NPCs) and a ton o' locals. The locals are the distinguishing factor.
The presence of NPCs is very new at the school.
ETA: Waiting for people to look at the sororities and have a "national tier discussion" ensue.
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33girl-thanks. I wasn't sure. Well then, let me point out that all the NPCs at St. John's are great!
St. John's University has 2 NPCs (from what I saw on their webpage): Tri-Sigma and Theta Phi Alpha.
Theta Phi Alpha: The House That Theta Phi Alpha Built is Theta Phi Alpha's newest philanthropic cause, established in 1993. The common goal through The House is to improve the plight of the homeless in any way. The chapter can seek to provide assistance to organizations that help the homeless, shelters, home building or neighborhood revitalization projects.
Sigma Sigma Sigma: The Sigma Sigma Sigma Foundation centers its latter philanthropic efforts around the theme “Sigma Serves Children,” specifically through the Robbie Page Memorial (RPM)-which provides play therapy for terminally ill children.
Nope! I don't know HOW anyone would want to join an organization which helps the homeless or sick kids! It seems like it would be really hard to "identify" with such philanthropies and missions as Theta Phi Alpha and Tri-Sigma seem to have. You're right-maybe we should just bring another sorority on campus to fulfill that need to HELP people because CLEARLY these organizations are NOT doing that-right?
For the Record, even if this girl wanted to bring Phi Mu on her campus (and I LOVE my sorority) I would feel the same way. How can you NOT feel that each and every one of the 26 NPCs has something of value to offer?
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02-18-2010, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sarolasju
If all the NPC groups were the same, your own founders never would have started new orgs, and you probably wouldn't be wherever you are now. Thank you to those who were supportive, but I guess I can't get help here. Thank you anyway.
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You have no idea what you are talking about. Most sororities were founded because of a group of women who wanted a closer bond with each other. Maybe they didn't like the women in other groups, maybe there wasn't another group on campus. Maybe they were denied for various reasons. Regardless of when and why a sorority was founded, honesty the values they hold are similar. You ever hear of the four pillars of Greek Life. They are called so because those four virtues are what most orgs at their heart care about, whatever their mission statement might be.
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02-18-2010, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sarolasju
Why would it have been better if I generalized my statements just to bring any NPC sorority to my school? Just any sorority with no knowledge of what they stand for, any group will do?
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I would encourage you to read recruitment stories on this website. I bet you any amount of money you won't find one where the PNM's main focus is on a sorority's philanthropy, their colors, where they were founded, etc. The #1 thing that everyone talks about is a CONNECTION. PNMs want to be in a chapter where they can find some true friends... actual SISTERS. Everything else is just icing on the cake.
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I do not 100% support and identify with the already present sororities philanthropies, mission statements, and purposes.
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This statement worries me. I don't think I could find an NPC sorority whose philanthropies, mission statements and purposes I don't identify with. My sorority means the WORLD to me, and I wouldn't give it up for anything. But loving something, no matter what it is, takes time. It takes getting to know your sisters and the organization through readings, teachings, rituals and experiences. And while every organization is different, they all essentially have the same goals and purposes.
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I simply felt I found a more appropriate match for me and yes; it is based on the contents of a website, but isn't that how most people expand???
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Expand how? Expand Greek life? Expand their knowledge? Any way you look at it, it saddens me to think that you believe a website (any website) could give you all of the information you need.. about anything.
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02-18-2010, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sarolasju
Why would it have been better if I generalized my statements just to bring any NPC sorority to my school? Just any sorority with no knowledge of what they stand for, any group will do? I don't really have a romanticized idea of what expansion is, clearly; I came here seeking help from people who may have seen it and been through it, but the majority of the responses I've received really do sound (to me anyway) like "don't bother, its too hard."
If all the NPC groups were the same, your own founders never would have started new orgs, and you probably wouldn't be wherever you are now. Thank you to those who were supportive, but I guess I can't get help here. Thank you anyway.
Edit: also; I've already stated before; my reason for wanting to bring a new chapter to my school has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with hoping everyone in my chapter or colony will be my "BFF". I do not 100% support and identify with the already present sororities philanthropies, mission statements, and purposes. I simply felt I found a more appropriate match for me and yes; it is based on the contents of a website, but isn't that how most people expand??? There would be NO PURPOSE for expansion WHATSOEVER if all groups were, as more than one person mentioned, "basically the same".
Again, thank you.
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Because every other sorority apparently has inferior philanthropies and their purposes are dedicated to sacrificing puppies and worshiping Satan. You are an insulting embarrassment and have absolutely no comprehension of the real bonds of sisterhood.
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