Woman reports rape at Eastern Michigan University fraternity house

[kellyelizabeth7]

Originally Posted by BaltoAlphaPsi

Sounds to me like the woman put herself in an unsafe situation. The fraternity seems to be taking Pro-active mesures according to a new report I just saw on TV.

It is NEVER okay to place the blame for sexual assault on the victim. Please educate yourself.

If your wallet was swiped, would it be reasonable for the police to ask "Why were you walking outside at night?" or "What were you doing at that bar in the first place?"

Absolutely not.

http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.g...omb/myths.html

[BaltoAlphaPsi]

Originally Posted by kellyelizabeth7

It is NEVER okay to place the blame for sexual assault on the victim. Please educate yourself.

If your wallet was swiped, would it be reasonable for the police to ask "Why were you walking outside at night?" or "What were you doing at that bar in the first place?"

Absolutely not.

http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.g...omb/myths.html

Sorry if you misunderstood, I was in no way blaming the victim.

I just ment that, if she knowingly went into the bathroom, drunk, with 4 drunk guys, maybe someone should educate her. It's not a very smart idea. When going to parties, girls should never leave eachother alone. And you should never go into rooms alone with guys you don't know -- even if you DO know them, you need to be super cautions when alcohal is involved

In no way did these men have the right to touch her, to assault her, to attack her. But she could have been smarter than to go into the bathroom with 4 drunk guys....

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by BaltoAlphaPsi

I just ment that, if she knowingly went into the bathroom, drunk, with 4 drunk guys, maybe someone should educate her. It's not a very smart idea. When going to parties, girls should never leave eachother alone. And you should never go into rooms alone with guys you don't know -- even if you DO know them, you need to be super cautions when alcohal is involved

In no way did these men have the right to touch her, to assault her, to attack her. But she could have been smarter than to go into the bathroom with 4 drunk guys....

I agree. The problem is that misinformed people think that neutrally highlighting opportunity and facilitating factors for crime puts the ball in the victim's court rather than in the perpetrators' court. What it really does is explain victimization and criminal opportunity.

[ThetaDancer]

Originally Posted by BaltoAlphaPsi

Sorry if you misunderstood, I was in no way blaming the victim.

I just ment that, if she knowingly went into the bathroom, drunk, with 4 drunk guys, maybe someone should educate her. It's not a very smart idea. When going to parties, girls should never leave eachother alone. And you should never go into rooms alone with guys you don't know -- even if you DO know them, you need to be super cautions when alcohal is involved

In no way did these men have the right to touch her, to assault her, to attack her. But she could have been smarter than to go into the bathroom with 4 drunk guys....

It's really hard for me to take you seriously when you're telling other people to seek education but you can't spell to save your life. Just saying.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by kellyelizabeth7

If your wallet was swiped, would it be reasonable for the police to ask "Why were you walking outside at night?" or "What were you doing at that bar in the first place?"

Yes.

"Victim precipitation" is not the same thing as victim blame. It is used in the criminal justice and legal systems, research, and policy.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by kellyelizabeth7

It is NEVER okay to place the blame for sexual assault on the victim. Please educate yourself.

It's never OK to only read part of an article, either, and further the already out of control victim syndrome with half-assed comments. Please educate YOURSELF.