3 people die in shooting at the University of Alabama in Huntsville

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I wasn't going for sarcasm

Which is unfortunate because you're the only one jumping to conclusions.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Which is unfortunate because you're the only one jumping to conclusions.

Which is also true.

I think it's sad that we can't even, as ASTalumna06 said, make an observation without fear of how that observation may be perceived.

For what it's worth, a fb friend of mine mentioned it in one of his status messages, and it concerned him because he is also a young professor of color.

See, when you're a minority, you think about these things. When you're not, you usually don't have to, so you don't.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Which is also true.

I think it's sad that we can't even, as ASTalumna06 said, make an observation without fear of how that observation may be perceived.

For what it's worth, a fb friend of mine mentioned it in one of his status messages, and it concerned him because he is also a young professor of color.

See, when you're a minority, you think about these things. When you're not, you usually don't have to, so you don't.

I care about this topic for a number of reasons so I did some low level Internet research.

As with most academic departments, the biological science department is predominently white: http://www.uah.edu/biology/faculty.html (you can click on each name to see a photo and bio)

So, it doesn't take mensa to beg the question of whether it is a coincidence that someone who opens fire at a faculty/departmental meeting shoots 6 faculty and ends up killing 3 racial and ethnic minorities on the department's faculty. We (other than PiKA2001) aren't going so far as to draw conclusions because that's what investigations are for.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

So, it doesn't take mensa to beg the question of whether it is a coincidence that someone who opens fire at a faculty/departmental meeting shoots 6 faculty and ends up killing 3 racial and ethnic minorities on the department's faculty. We (other than PiKA2001) aren't going so far as to draw conclusions because that's what investigations are for.

You are drawing conclusions, you just don't realize it. You talk about leaving it up to the investigation but you've already chalked this out to be racially motivated. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying thats not possible, it COULD very well based on race. We know that she killed her brother years ago and she seemed like she didn't realize that she had opened fire on her colleagues, which leads me to believe she is very f*cked up ( lack of better words). Did race play a factor? Maybe. Was it the motivating factor? Who knows.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

You are drawing conclusions, you just don't realize it.

My only conclusion is you don't read for comprehension or aren't accustomed to such discourse. You are going all around the world just to conclude what the rest of us are saying: It begs the question, there is a possibility, and we won't know until the investigation.

Now go play in traffic.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Now go play in traffic.

Its so rare for me to receive such pleasantries, thank you.

So do you think the investigation will look into a possible racial motive? Open source media is pretty adament on the idea that this was based on her not getting tenure, any evidence/theory of race being involved might end up being anecdotal. I'm interested to know where the victims were seated in regards to the shooter. I'd think that someone in the mindset to kill at random would hit the closest targets first, but if she had specific targets and skipped others to shoot them, that leads me to ask; Did these victims directly decide whether or not she received tenure, or did she believe that the victims "stole" her position? Also, does anyone know if the entire dept faculty was present at the time?

[Ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Its so rare for me to receive such pleasantries, thank you.

So do you think the investigation will look into a possible racial motive? Open source media is pretty adament on the idea that this was based on her not getting tenure, any evidence/theory of race being involved might end up being anecdotal. I'm interested to know where the victims were seated in regards to the shooter. I'd think that someone in the mindset to kill at random would hit the closest targets first, but if she had specific targets and skipped others to shoot them, that leads me to ask; Did these victims directly decide whether or not she received tenure, or did she believe that the victims "stole" her position? Also, does anyone know if the entire dept faculty was present at the time?

I personally think she was a fruitcake sociopath who could not stand the idea of rejection or failure. I would be surprised if she singled out people by ethicity but rather believe she started shooting and didn't care who she hit. More than likely they were closest to her when she started the shooting. However, as I was not there this is simply conjecture on my part.