New IFC restrictions for "State" Patty's Day.

[PsychTau]

I admit that I am not speaking with full knowledge of the situation, so take this for what it's worth. Just something to consider.

First of all, IFC is made up of a representative from each chapter. Those representatives would have to vote on adopting this policy. So the Greeks shouldn't be pissed at the school because it was a policy their very own chapters voted to pass (at least the IFC Chapters).

Chances are, these IFC policies are actually in line with the Inter/National Orgs policies (pretty sure no fraternity is allowed to host a party with open access to non members and uncontrolled access to alcohol). So they aren't going to get much sympathy from HQ and Administrators (unless there's some huge part of this that I'm missing).

The chapters may be feeling scapegoated, but they also should consider their actions and how they may/may not be playing into the stereotype that they also complain about. In other words, if someone doesn't want to be known as a drunken sorority slut, they should not act like a drunken sorority slut (that is an EXAMPLE...I'm not calling anyone names!). Maybe the IFC made this move because the parties on "State" Patty's Day were causing more harm? I don't know...I wasn't there for the discussion.

And finally...if chapter members find their party policies too restrictive, just go to a party hosted by some "independents" that don't have to follow Risk Management Policies and have your fun there. Nothing wrong with partying with non-Greek members...they drink just like everyone else!

PsychTau

[als463]

As a Penn State Alum, who graduated in 2007 (when State Patty's Day started), I can say that I feel for the Greeks at Penn State over these policies. I even have a shirt from State Patty's Day that says something about Penn State being a better school than others (something like, reason #137 why Penn State is better than your school...We start our own holidays) regarding drinking and partying.

Penn State is known for being a party school, but the academics are no joke. I understand not wanting DUIs and damage of personal property, but Greeks aren't the ONLY ONES who give Penn State the party image.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by PsychTau

First of all, IFC is made up of a representative from each chapter. Those representatives would have to vote on adopting this policy. So the Greeks shouldn't be pissed at the school because it was a policy their very own chapters voted to pass (at least the IFC Chapters).

Oh come now. We all know that IFCs and NPCs occasionally get buffaloed or pretty much blackmailed into voting ways that they don't agree with at all, for fear of the consequences if they don't. There was a drinking-related death at Penn State last fall and the Greek system as a whole pretty much has its balls in a sling. I'm wagering the guys who voted for this didn't feel like they had a choice. I'd rather see the school just man up and ban things from the top rather than doing crap like this and saying "well, YOUR STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES voted in favor of it!"

[pshsx1]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Oh come now. We all know that IFCs and NPCs occasionally get buffaloed or pretty much blackmailed into voting ways that they don't agree with at all, for fear of the consequences if they don't. There was a drinking-related death at Penn State last fall and the Greek system as a whole pretty much has its balls in a sling. I'm wagering the guys who voted for this didn't feel like they had a choice. I'd rather see the school just man up and ban things from the top rather than doing crap like this and saying "well, YOUR STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES voted in favor of it!"

Yes!

Is it bad that the St. Patty's Day Party at my school is in the IFC bylaws as a party that can't be conflicted with?...

[psusue]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Oh come now. We all know that IFCs and NPCs occasionally get buffaloed or pretty much blackmailed into voting ways that they don't agree with at all, for fear of the consequences if they don't. There was a drinking-related death at Penn State last fall and the Greek system as a whole pretty much has its balls in a sling. I'm wagering the guys who voted for this didn't feel like they had a choice. I'd rather see the school just man up and ban things from the top rather than doing crap like this and saying "well, YOUR STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES voted in favor of it!"

This is basically what happened, or so I heard. The only voting members of the IFC council are the fraternity presidents, but when you're in a room with the head of Greek life and many other important executives, it's unlikely you're going to "stick it to the man" at that time.