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Old 02-08-2010, 10:45 PM
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It hurt her as far as I'm concerned as a voter. I was a fan; not so much anymore.
I sincerely do not mean this to be a dick, so if you don't mind me asking . . . why?
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Old 02-09-2010, 12:48 AM
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It hurt her as far as I'm concerned as a voter. I was a fan; not so much anymore.

As far as the Tea Party stuff, I'm not sure how legitimate the convention was in the eyes of Tea Partiers anyway. I think it ended up going pretty well based on the reports I've read, but the organization seems markedly different than the organization of other Tea Party events, from what I can tell from right wing sites.
Reading somewhat between the lines, this event was a fundraiser.

For what? No clue.
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Old 02-09-2010, 02:03 AM
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Let's assume for the sake of argument that the lady's electable. Does anyone think she actually has the skill set or organizational ability to follow through with making any of her stated policies into reality?
No.
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:13 AM
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Reading somewhat between the lines, this event was a fundraiser.

For what? No clue.
Does Palin have a PAC? I hadn't heard of one, but I could be wrong.
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:19 AM
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Trust me, I'm not upset or complaing, "It's not fair!" regarding Palin's chances to be president. I was simply stating that, for the most part, it was a Catch 22 for her. Either decision would probably have helped and hurt her equally.
I don't think so, though. Even if you allow for the fact that Alaska is removed from the national political scene, I think she would have been better off staying in office. There is no positive way to spin the fact that she left office, and the fact that she blamed political gridlock made it even worse.
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:54 AM
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Does Palin have a PAC? I hadn't heard of one, but I could be wrong.
I'm sure she accepted a speaking fee, but I doubt this is her PAC. The event claims to have had 600 attendees who paid $549 registration fees. Now, I don't know much about cost, but that sounds like the beginnings of a pretty successful event if the purpose is fundraising.

I don't know if Palin will be their choice. The movement claims to be more about ideology than propping up anyone in particular. I guess we'll see, won't we?
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Old 02-09-2010, 12:04 PM
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I'm sure she accepted a speaking fee, but I doubt this is her PAC. The event claims to have had 600 attendees who paid $549 registration fees. Now, I don't know much about cost, but that sounds like the beginnings of a pretty successful event if the purpose is fundraising.
I'm not finding any committee listed at the REC yet.

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I don't know if Palin will be their choice. The movement claims to be more about ideology than propping up anyone in particular. I guess we'll see, won't we?
On Diane Rehm this morning, the guy who organized the Tea Party convention said that, if the election were now, Palin would indeed be his choice.
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Old 02-09-2010, 12:50 PM
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I'm not finding any committee listed at the REC yet.

On Diane Rehm this morning, the guy who organized the Tea Party convention said that, if the election were now, Palin would indeed be his choice.
I heard that.

I actually agree with this movement on a lot of levels. Who they choose as their 'standard bearer' (I think that's the job description they were discussing on the DR show) is going to be determinative as to whether they're taken seriously.

Just hearing the adjectives used to describe Palin by this otherwise seemingly bright individual gave me reason to think that this movement may be a lot more about personal politics than it cares to admit.
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Old 02-09-2010, 01:36 PM
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The tea party movement started out as non-partisan, moved to multi-partisan, and is very quickly becoming partisan (the part of the republican party most likely to break off/force a split)
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Old 02-09-2010, 03:00 PM
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Who they choose as their 'standard bearer' (I think that's the job description they were discussing on the DR show) is going to be determinative as to whether they're taken seriously.
Standbearer was indeed the description he was using, to contrast it with a leader/director and to emphasize the grassroots nature of the movement. It will be interesting to see how that plays out, because too much grassrootedness could impede the organization necessary to do anything more than be a spoiler, I'd wager.

And I think you may be right about the personal politics. I have to say, the interview with the convention organizer this morning on the DR show didn't leave me with a good impression, at least in the sense of focus or ability to do anything more than give a forum for venting.
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Old 02-09-2010, 05:42 PM
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This is my thing. I just don't have a lot of confidence in her skill set, organizational ability, or her intelligence to be President. There's something to be said for surrounding yourself with the right people, but I don't even think she could do that.

I think her best role is what she's doing now: political commentator and conservative "activist." (I also think it's Mike Huckabee's best role as well) I hope that's the role she chooses going into the election. I just don't think she's good for the Republican party, and she represents some issues I as a Republican have with certain factions of the party.
I am as conservative as they come, and I agree with this (referring to Palin.)

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Maybe she's a nice lady and all, but she's not Commander in Chief material. I mean, she's just fine at giving speeches and making folksy statements, but running a country requires a different skill set.
OK, but let's think about what we voted into office instead. A nice man who is EXCELLENT at giving speeches, but his resume was starkly THIN as well. No executive experience at all, no experience in the private sector, never had to meet a payroll, and hadn't even completed his first term as senator. Oh, he's good at reading a teleprompter, but evidently hasn't come across the word CORPSMAN in his first rate education. (When you mispronounce something THREE TIMES in a speech, it's obvious you aren't familiar with the word.) But he is now our Commander in Chief. I'll bet that reassured our armed servicemen (and women).

Now don't tell me I am being petty about the corpsman controversy (which the MSM conveniently ignores.) Dan Quayle was pilloried for misspelling potato and totally sidelined for any further political aspirations. If Sarah Palin had mispronounced the word, you would still be hearing it every morning on MSNBC.
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Old 02-09-2010, 05:47 PM
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But...Palin quit her job as governor, so if she ever runs for any office again, don't you think that her resigning will be among THE FIRST things that will come to people's mind?

Forget mispronounciations!
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Old 02-09-2010, 05:49 PM
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Obama = Editor of the Harvard Law Review
Palin = 'C' Student at the University of Idaho, B.S. in Journalism.

One is just slightly more impressive than the other, dontchathink?
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Old 02-09-2010, 05:53 PM
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Now don't tell me I am being petty about the corpsman controversy
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:21 PM
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OK, but let's think about what we voted into office instead. A nice man who is EXCELLENT at giving speeches, but his resume was starkly THIN as well. No executive experience at all, no experience in the private sector, never had to meet a payroll, and hadn't even completed his first term as senator. Oh, he's good at reading a teleprompter, but evidently hasn't come across the word CORPSMAN in his first rate education. (When you mispronounce something THREE TIMES in a speech, it's obvious you aren't familiar with the word.) But he is now our Commander in Chief. I'll bet that reassured our armed servicemen (and women).

Now don't tell me I am being petty about the corpsman controversy (which the MSM conveniently ignores.) Dan Quayle was pilloried for misspelling potato and totally sidelined for any further political aspirations. If Sarah Palin had mispronounced the word, you would still be hearing it every morning on MSNBC.
You're not being "petty" in a true sense - instead, you're begging the question. You're simply stating these "qualifications" without any evidence that a.) he doesn't have the ability to do them, b.) experience demonstrates ability, c.) the qualifications even matter, and so on.

So yeah - I'd rather you were being petty than fallacious.
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