Introducing: The Apple iPad - Page 5

DaemonSeid · #61 01-28-2010, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

Will they? Because these flaws seem endemic in the design - not in the idea. The execution.

(Believe it or not, this is fun having someone to talk to who actually knows what they are talking about and not just slamming Apple because it's Apple!)

Well a good for instance is look at the iPhone as well as the entire ipod line and see how it's evolved (quickly I may add) over the years. You know as well as i do that Apple is not used to resting on their laurels. What started off as a music player 10 years ago has now blossomed into a multimedia device and you can't really say that the iPad isn't part of that evolution.

For the sake of the argument, let's leave the ipad out and focus on the Touch and the rest of the ipod line. Look at what you can do NOW on the Touch that you couldn't do on the original ipod. Music, video, camera. Decreased sized and increased storage. This is why I debate the whole "Look as what it can't do' argument because in some cases, you don't need to do it or in the future, you probably will and in some cases, you rarely need to. Again, however, good point, this is why I cautioned about being an early adopter because next time around there will be a feature that comes out that your old device didn't have. I do believe tho, that Apple has this way of testing the consumer waters when presenting devices like these and saves the goods for later after they see what kind of return they get from the early adapters.

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

The point is that multitasking is important - the iPhone can get away with it because anything beyond the 'normal' phone (the Smartphone part) is essentially value-added, because it's a phone. This is . . . not.

... but it doesn't HAVE to, and that's my point. Why doesn't this use OS X (or really any architecture that would allow for multitasking)?

No question. But this is why I state (and again I think we agree just we approach this from 2 different sides) when I first heard about this device, I really didn't get an idea that this was a device built for multitasking. I just don't see why people expected a full Mac OSX in this thing, I say again, look at where it's gotten netbooks, stripped down versions of what you could get for 1 or 2 hundred bucks more. However it seems beneficial to take the current OS and pump a 'powerful' processor in it to make it run smoother.

Back to your question about the OS X and multitasking...I still say again, let's wait and see what the next one does. Cut and Paste last year altho seemingly trivial was a huge step forward so maybe we get lucky and get multitasking?

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

And that's where you're doubly wrong: I'm not an Apple hater - in fact, in a lot of ways, I'm an aficionado.

I just expected more than this. Well, not "more" - just better.

Dude I was picking with you!!! LOL

I think this has a lot to do with the hype machine and what you heard up to the release of info. I guess for me was the I just figured (correctly this time) to not expect a lot out of this machine and any extras will probably come around another time. Again, let's remember, Apple has never put its all in one device especially a device newly released, so again, no surprises here as far as the features that people were looking for. Now say if this didn't have video capability or lacked other things that current products had, yeah that would be a disappointment.

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

There's a reason why you don't see them - they performed miserably in testing, to the point where Amazon actually sponsored research to develop something completely new instead. This is not opinion - there's a lot of hard research and focus grouping.

Well hey, it happens...

As to you rlast post, well I think now supposedly people are clamring for tablets now and supposedly the PC market may finally be ready to welcome tablets by the amount that was featured at the CES, so only time will teel if this is something that consumers want and can use.

I will say that my s/o has a tablet laptop (one of this with the swivel screen that converts into a tablet) and she likes it enough. But in the end, it's still a heavy laptop so her wish is if she was to get a fully functioning device, that it would have to be lightweight.

33girl · #62 01-28-2010, 11:27 PM

They interviewed the people who wrote the "IPad" MadTV sketch on NPR. LOL.

PiKA2001 · #63 01-31-2010, 11:25 AM

Amazon just blacklisted books published by Macmillan because they had made an agreement with Apple to sell their books on iTunes for a higher price. Huh? I would of thought amazon would love the fact that their prices are lower than iTunes.

DaemonSeid · #64 01-31-2010, 04:55 PM

Price Wars

TPA85 · #65 01-31-2010, 09:52 PM

Pee Wee Herman gets an iPad:
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f7a...e-gets-an-ipad

PiKA2001 · #66 02-01-2010, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Price Wars

Not sure how much experience amazon has with that battle but I remember apple fighting the record labels many times over the years with the initial opening of iTunes and the 9.99 album prices then later with them forcing the labels to sell their music drm free. This should be interesting. On another note, I wonder if amazon is worried about the ipad being a kindle killer. I WAS hell bent on buying a kindle dx later this year, but now I'm over it. I want the ipad instead

DaemonSeid · #67 02-01-2010, 06:43 AM

Im still reserving judgement a bit until I see some other tablet competitors.

Still BLUTANG · #68 02-01-2010, 02:54 PM

PiKA2001,

i have the kindle dx and love the fact that it is NOT touch. if you're really looking at an e-reader take another look at kindle, nook, etc. i think the technology behind e-readers (using e-ink, no backlight, etc) make them preferable to an ipad or similar device.

PiKA2001 · #69 02-02-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Still BLUTANG

PiKA2001,

i have the kindle dx and love the fact that it is NOT touch. if you're really looking at an e-reader take another look at kindle, nook, etc. i think the technology behind e-readers (using e-ink, no backlight, etc) make them preferable to an ipad or similar device.

Very true, I hear that the e-ink format is not as stressful on the eyes as led lit screens, but I believe that the ipad can "grow" and expand via apps and software updates in ways that the amazon and sony e-book readers can't. Who knows with Apple, the second gen ipad might have a native e-ink application.

agzg · #70 02-02-2010, 02:23 PM

I looked at the Nook at B&N last night, I can tell you I was not impressed. It was not very responsive, and I don't like how it flashes black then goes back whenever you turn a page. I can imagine the iPad would be more responsive (if judging from my iPod touch).

PiKA2001 · #71 02-02-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg

I looked at the Nook at B&N last night, I can tell you I was not impressed. It was not very responsive, and I don't like how it flashes black then goes back whenever you turn a page. I can imagine the iPad would be more responsive (if judging from my iPod touch).

I wanted to check that out, It was supposed to be the "kindle killer" when they announced it a few months back. Do you know how it compares to a Kindle?

agzg · #72 02-02-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I wanted to check that out, It was supposed to be the "kindle killer" when they announced it a few months back. Do you know how it compares to a Kindle?

I haven't actually *held* a Kindle and played around with it yet. I think they have one at like Best Buy that you can play around with (but I'm not sure) - I know Best Buy has the Sony one.

I just was not impressed with it at.all. I mean, I'd rather carry a book. It could be that the one they had out was a display one and people have been abusing it but I really doubt it (there were two out, live-in and I had different ones that we were holding, and we saw the same problems).

PiKA2001 · #73 02-02-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg

I haven't actually *held* a Kindle and played around with it yet. I think they have one at like Best Buy that you can play around with (but I'm not sure) - I know Best Buy has the Sony one.

I just was not impressed with it at.all. I mean, I'd rather carry a book. It could be that the one they had out was a display one and people have been abusing it but I really doubt it (there were two out, live-in and I had different ones that we were holding, and we saw the same problems).

I didn't know bestbuy had kindles. I havent heard anything good about the Sony reader other than the fact it's the sleekest.

agzg · #74 02-02-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I didn't know bestbuy had kindles. I havent heard anything good about the Sony reader other than the fact it's the sleekest.

I feel like I was at a Best Buy mobile (one of the smaller stores you'd find in a mall) and they had the Sony reader, with a Kindle that you could compare it with.

But I'm not sure. It sure would be nice for those of us that are more cautious buyers if there were licensed retailers of the Kindle that could have a display out!

agzg · #75 02-02-2010, 05:10 PM

Double post, but it's been 2 hours, so I don't care.

CNN Money did a comparison between the iPad and Kindle. There hasn't been a Kindle killer yet, and I think if Amazon cuts the price of the Kindle there won't be one.