Epsilon chapter on MTV2 tomorrow

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Phrozen1ne

I definitely agree. On my campus we had the Ebony and Ivory (I hated that name) stepshow where NPHC and non-NPHC teams would be paired together to put a routine as one team. It was very entertaining.

LOL. That is a HORRIBLY outdated name.

So, on that note, if ZTA was to win, I would nod my head in acknowledgement of their stepping skills but really credit their win to the AKAs who taught them the tools and routine.

[DST4A00]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

LOL. That is a HORRIBLY outdated name.

So, on that note, if ZTA was to win, I would nod my head in acknowledgement of their stepping skills but really credit their win to the AKAs who taught them the tools and routine.

Ooh good point! Well the show was fascinating (all 30 mins of it) guess I'll have to tune in next week. They seem to focus more on the drama between the individual members of each org (No surprise there) than the stepping itself. I really can't see a winner based on the overwhelming lack of stepping.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DST4A00

Ooh good point! Well the show was fascinating (all 30 mins of it) guess I'll have to tune in next week. They seem to focus more on the drama between the individual members of each org (No surprise there) than the stepping itself. I really can't see a winner based on the overwhelming lack of stepping.

Actually, I kind of take what I typed back. The AKAs taught them 16 years ago. I assume they've learned and built their own traditions since then.

I missed the show. What drama? Are they trying to do a Real World/soap opera from it? I just want to see steps. Is that too much to ask? Of course it is--especially from something geared towards the mainstream.

[honeychile]

I should probably keep my mouth shut on this, but here's my two cents:

When I was in school, AKA was the only NPHC sorority which sent a delegate to the Collegiate Panhellenic meetings. They decided to take part in Greek Sing that year. Nobody thought to ask them what it entailed, just gave them the same rules everyone else got (how many members, background music v. a cappella, etc). They didn't think to ask.

So, Greek Sing came, and all of the IFC fraternities & NPC sororities showed up in their highly detailed costumes, prepared music, and sang the Broadway standards or classic Neil Diamond, Beatles, or whatever songs. Then the AKA sisters took the stage - in their line clothing, doing step songs. Everyone could tell that they were scared and in shock, and for a second, nobody clapped at all. I'm proud to say that the ADPis and the fraternities we were sitting with all stood and clapped and whistled for them, then everyone else also clapped.

One of these days, we're going to quit blaming each other for not getting the rules straight, and instead, make sure that everyone's on the same page BEFORE the problems start. We're going to realize that there are culture differences which shouldn't divide us, but unite us by their very differences. It starts here, folks, on places like GreekChat, so long as we don't tear each other apart to do so.
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[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by honeychile

I should probably keep my mouth shut on this, but here's my two cents:

When I was in school, AKA was the only NPHC sorority which sent a delegate to the Collegiate Panhellenic meetings. They decided to take part in Greek Sing that year. Nobody thought to ask them what it entailed, just gave them the same rules everyone else got (how many members, background music v. a cappella, etc). They didn't think to ask.

So, Greek Sing came, and all of the IFC fraternities & NPC sororities showed up in their highly detailed costumes, prepared music, and sang the Broadway standards or classic Neil Diamond, Beatles, or whatever songs. Then the AKA sisters took the stage - in their line clothing, doing step songs. Everyone could tell that they were scared and in shock, and for a second, nobody clapped at all. I'm proud to say that the ADPis and the fraternities we were sitting with all stood and clapped and whistled for them, then everyone else also clapped.

One of these days, we're going to quit blaming each other for not getting the rules straight, and instead, make sure that everyone's on the same page BEFORE the problems start. We're going to realize that there are culture differences which shouldn't divide us, but unite us by their very differences. It starts here, folks, on places like GreekChat, so long as we don't tear each other apart to do so.
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Not being told the rules isn't what we're talking about.

However, 10-15 years ago, the NPHC orgs at the schools that I've attended and worked with had the exact same experience as that AKA chapter you're typing about. If everyone's going to be included, everyone should be told the rules and it should be understood that not every group will be able to fit with the rules. Then, if it's not a mandatory activity like Panhel meetings and Greek Week are at many schools, the groups can decide to bow out gracefully if need be.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by honeychile

I should probably keep my mouth shut on this, but here's my two cents:

When I was in school, AKA was the only NPHC sorority which sent a delegate to the Collegiate Panhellenic meetings. They decided to take part in Greek Sing that year. Nobody thought to ask them what it entailed, just gave them the same rules everyone else got (how many members, background music v. a cappella, etc). They didn't think to ask.

So, Greek Sing came, and all of the IFC fraternities & NPC sororities showed up in their highly detailed costumes, prepared music, and sang the Broadway standards or classic Neil Diamond, Beatles, or whatever songs. Then the AKA sisters took the stage - in their line clothing, doing step songs. Everyone could tell that they were scared and in shock, and for a second, nobody clapped at all. I'm proud to say that the ADPis and the fraternities we were sitting with all stood and clapped and whistled for them, then everyone else also clapped.

One of these days, we're going to quit blaming each other for not getting the rules straight, and instead, make sure that everyone's on the same page BEFORE the problems start. We're going to realize that there are culture differences which shouldn't divide us, but unite us by their very differences. It starts here, folks, on places like GreekChat, so long as we don't tear each other apart to do so.
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You totally missed the point. If you care, go back and read thru all the posts although it is possible that you just won't get it. And that's fine too.