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01-27-2010, 12:11 PM
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When it comes to getting the poor off their butts and into jobs, starvation is an excellent motivator.
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01-27-2010, 12:15 PM
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When it comes to getting the poor off their butts and into jobs, starvation is an excellent motivator.
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But starving children don't make good press no matter how you try to spin it.
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01-27-2010, 12:17 PM
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When it comes to getting the poor off their butts and into jobs, starvation is an excellent motivator.
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Not to mention that the average poor person and person on AFDC is either underemployed/underpaid or quite actively looking for work.
The lazy ass poor person who won't look for a job is a relative rarity and farce that is based on racial and social class stereotypes (moreso the former than the latter).
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01-27-2010, 08:02 PM
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Not to mention that the average poor person and person on AFDC is either underemployed/underpaid or quite actively looking for work.
The lazy ass poor person who won't look for a job is a relative rarity and farce that is based on racial and social class stereotypes (moreso the former than the latter).
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There is no such thing as being underpaid.
You agree to work for a certain wage. If you are underpaid, you have a valid complaint for the labor department. And as far as social class stereotypes are concerned, they're mostly accurate. If you learn a trade/value your education, you generally aren't going to end up in a lower class situation. For those that ended up there due to their own efforts (or usually lack thereof), I feel zero pity.
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01-27-2010, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin
There is no such thing as being underpaid.
You agree to work for a certain wage. If you are underpaid, you have a valid complaint for the labor department. And as far as social class stereotypes are concerned, they're mostly accurate. If you learn a trade/value your education, you generally aren't going to end up in a lower class situation.
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Thank God for quantitative and qualitative research.
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For those that ended up there due to their own efforts (or usually lack thereof), I feel zero pity.
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This doesn't contrast what I said.
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01-27-2010, 09:26 PM
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There is no such thing as being underpaid.
You agree to work for a certain wage.
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Yes there is. You "agree" to work for that amount of money because if you don't, you won't get the job. And then that poor sap will have jackasses like you bitching for them to get off their "lazy ass" and get a job.
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01-27-2010, 09:32 PM
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Yes there is. You "agree" to work for that amount of money because if you don't, you won't get the job. And then that poor sap will have jackasses like you bitching for them to get off their "lazy ass" and get a job.
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Yep. Thank God for quantitative and qualitative research.
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01-28-2010, 01:04 AM
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Yes there is. You "agree" to work for that amount of money because if you don't, you won't get the job. And then that poor sap will have jackasses like you bitching for them to get off their "lazy ass" and get a job.
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And if they had done well in high school or learned a trade, they just wouldn't be in that situation, now would they?
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01-28-2010, 02:08 AM
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And if they had done well in high school or learned a trade, they just wouldn't be in that situation, now would they?
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Seriously, Kevin, this is like a 200 level course.
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01-28-2010, 02:41 AM
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Seriously, Kevin, this is like a 200 level course.
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I definitely chuckled.
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01-28-2010, 02:08 PM
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And if they had done well in high school or learned a trade, they just wouldn't be in that situation, now would they?
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College grads can get on welfare too ya know...I know of 2 right now.
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01-28-2010, 02:36 PM
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College grads can get on welfare too ya know...I know of 2 right now.
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This was also discussed in that "men are marrying..." thread.
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01-28-2010, 02:38 PM
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College grads can get on welfare too ya know...I know of 2 right now.
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I had heard about food stamps, too.
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01-28-2010, 02:39 PM
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College grads can get on welfare too ya know...I know of 2 right now.
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If you consider unemployment to be welfare, I know of a whole lot more than that. Guys with MBAs (ex husband for one), mechanical engineers, chemical engineers, PhDs in chemistry, network administrators, bankers. The ranks of the unemployed are most definitely not limited to the uneducated.
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01-28-2010, 02:02 PM
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Yes there is. You "agree" to work for that amount of money because if you don't, you won't get the job. And then that poor sap will have jackasses like you bitching for them to get off their "lazy ass" and get a job.
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It's better to be working and "underpaid" than sitting around collecting tax payer's money because you feel you're "worth" more money. Sure, I'd love to be making more than I am and I feel like I deserve it, but that doesn't mean I'd quit my job because I feel "underpaid."
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