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Old 01-05-2010, 11:30 PM
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So you are opposed to having an Atheist (gasp!) as president over the plethora of fake religious politicians racing to church to show how religious they are just to prove to the American people that they are Christians? I'd take an Atheist who makes decisions based in logic rather than random "because I think it's God's will" logic any day. Why do your specific religious beliefs trump everyone else's religious beliefs? Separation of church and state is for a very good reason.
In some way, when it comes to politics, everyone's personal beliefs "trump" the rest of the country. Think about why you choose one politician over another - most likely, it's because that politician shares a belief, or is promoting a cause you think is more important than other causes.

Isn't that, in a way, thinking that your beliefs "trump" everyone else's (or thinking that your beliefs should win out, at the very least)?

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I love how all of the conservatives kept arguing that no one should mention anyones' race, gender, etc when announcing these appointments and that the Obama administration is the only administration that does this. Did I imagine the W administration announcing how inclusive they were every time he nominated a hispanic or african american or female candidate for some office or other?
I love over-generalizations when it comes to politics. I'll bet you most conservatives couldn't care less, as long as it doesn't increase our taxes.

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Old 01-05-2010, 08:01 PM
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Are we really gonna turn this discussion into one about religion? Oh geez..
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Old 01-05-2010, 08:23 PM
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Are we really gonna turn this discussion into one about religion? Oh geez..
Yes. And if you don't participate, you're a racist, too.
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Old 01-06-2010, 08:18 AM
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well.....lois einhorn used to miami PD chief.
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Old 01-05-2010, 04:05 PM
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"First we get a Muslim president and now we have he-shes in the White House. Let us pray for the future of our country."
I still find it sad that I know people who would say this
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Old 01-05-2010, 04:15 PM
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I still find it sad that I know people who would say this
Ditto.
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:49 AM
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Yeah, before Rush gets ahold of it.
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Old 01-05-2010, 01:02 PM
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Amanda Simpson's transgenderism isn't easy to detect based on her appearance, but many transgender people aren't as passable as she is.

Also, transgenderism can be detected by things such as looking at someone's work history, family background, and record of previous names used.
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Old 01-05-2010, 01:03 PM
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Amanda Simpson's transgenderism isn't easy to detect based on her appearance, but many transgender people aren't as passable as she is.

Also, transgenderism can be detected by things such as looking at someone's work history, family background, and record of previous names used.

Also, that's a REALLY good photo of her.
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Old 01-05-2010, 01:41 PM
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I love how all of the conservatives kept arguing that no one should mention anyones' race, gender, etc when announcing these appointments and that the Obama administration is the only administration that does this. Did I imagine the W administration announcing how inclusive they were every time he nominated a hispanic or african american or female candidate for some office or other?
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Old 01-05-2010, 01:54 PM
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"Being the first sucks," she [Amanda] told ABC News.com. "I'd rather not be the first but someone has to be first, or among the first. I think I'm experienced and very well qualified to deal with anything that might show up because I've broken barriers at lots of other places and I always win people over with who I am and what I can do."



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Though transgender advocates believe Simpson's gender identity had no role in her hiring, conservative groups claim it was a political move.

"Simpson's nomination was forwarded through to President Obama by a gay activist group, making it appear that this appointment of a male-to-female 'transgender' activist to a high level Commerce Department position to be payback to his far-left base for their political support," Monica Schleicher, spokeswoman for Christian group Focus on the Family, said in statement.

"Efforts to promote 'transgenderism' in public policy deconstruct one of the most fundamental concepts known to mankind. It renders gender, the most basic organization of social systems, completely meaningless. In doing so, activists like Simpson are asking the rest of society to radically reorder the ways in which the culture makes reasonable and rational accommodation for the two genders," she said.
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Old 01-05-2010, 02:00 PM
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"Though transgender advocates believe Simpson's gender identity had no role in her hiring, conservative groups claim it was a political move."
Everything's a political move. Now that we've gotten the obvious out of the way, what is there of SUBSTANCE to complain about?
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