Nigerian Man attempts to blow up Plane

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

It takes me more than an hour to fly from the east coast to Detroit when I've been there. Maybe they fly faster when coming from Europe. I stand corrected. Either way, you put together the bomb at 1hour 10 minutes, go back to your seat and detonate it closer to landing. That bomb wouldn't have made much of an impact on a city anyway. It was meant to bring down an airplane. It had enough power to blow a hole in the side of a plane. A plane at the end of a trans-atlantic flight would have little fuel and would crash killing the people on board no matter where it landed. The point of the 911 hijackings was that it involved planes with full fuel tanks that they used to crash into buildings causing major damage. This bomb was meant to terrorize like the Lockerbie bombing. It didn't even happen in the US, but that didn't terrorize us any less.

For one, I'm not putting my racist mumbo jumbo crap out here. When I fly, I'm leary of any creepy looking person. Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist and I'm pretty sure he was white.

And that bomb would have had MUCH impact on a city. They just reported on our news that had the bomb succeeded, it would have been over St. Claire Shores or Grosse Point.... two very residential areas. When planes crash they don't say "oh hey here's an open field, fall there", not that there'd be much open field in those two cities. And I can't believe your respect for other people's lives.

"That bomb wouldn't have made much of an impact on a city anyway. It was meant to bring down an airplane. It had enough power to blow a hole in the side of a plane. A plane at the end of a trans-atlantic flight would have little fuel and would crash killing the people on board no matter where it landed."

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? A bomb is a bomb and a terrorist is a terrorist no matter how many people are killed.

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

That bomb wouldn't have made much of an impact on a city anyway. It was meant to bring down an airplane. It had enough power to blow a hole in the side of a plane. A plane at the end of a trans-atlantic flight would have little fuel and would crash killing the people on board no matter where it landed. The point of the 911 hijackings was that it involved planes with full fuel tanks that they used to crash into buildings causing major damage.

Actually, many of the news reports point out that the point of the guy detonating the bomb so close to the end of the flight wasn't just to bring the plane down, it was to bring it down in a densely populated area so that the debris and everything could cause more casualties on the ground.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

They just reported on our news that had the bomb succeeded, it would have been over St. Claire Shores or Grosse Point.... two very residential areas.

WOW! That LITERALLY hits way too close to home for me. By the way, take that E from Clair and give it to Pointe

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

Actually, many of the news reports point out that the point of the guy detonating the bomb so close to the end of the flight wasn't just to bring the plane down, it was to bring it down in a densely populated area so that the debris and everything could cause more casualties on the ground.

The Amsterdam to Detroit flight takes the "polar" path so most of the flight is over the north atlantic and Canada, only entering U.S. airspace the last 30 mins of the flight, hence why crazy man waited until descent to attempt to blow up the plane.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

For one, I'm not putting my racist mumbo jumbo crap out here. When I fly, I'm leary of any creepy looking person. Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist and I'm pretty sure he was white.

Yeah, right! And where did you learn that little factoid? Care to revisit the infamous thread? http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=102169 Are you really afraid of white people now, too, or did we just teach you to add Timothy McVeigh to your list to throw us off? BTW, is your "friend" a Pakistani or a Palestinian now?

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

And that bomb would have had MUCH impact on a city. They just reported on our news that had the bomb succeeded, it would have been over St. Claire Shores or Grosse Point.... two very residential areas. When planes crash they don't say "oh hey here's an open field, fall there", not that there'd be much open field in those two cities. And I can't believe your respect for other people's lives. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? A bomb is a bomb and a terrorist is a terrorist no matter how many people are killed.

Originally Posted by texas*princess

Actually, many of the news reports point out that the point of the guy detonating the bomb so close to the end of the flight wasn't just to bring the plane down, it was to bring it down in a densely populated area so that the debris and everything could cause more casualties on the ground.

I will accept and apologize for my ignorance of Detroit. But PM Mama, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? A bomb is a bomb. You are making my point. Whether we save the cities or not, we are still leaving the people in our airplanes in danger with nuts strapped with explosives with cheesy "sit in your seat for the last hour" solutions to solve an attempted terrorist plot. Was he in the bathroom when he tried to detonate the bomb? NO! Would that rule have prevented him from assembling the bomb an hour and 10 minutes before landing to go back to his seat and detonate it when he wanted? NO! The rule, as I previously said, is STUPID! The ONLY reason that plane didn't blow up was because the detonator FAILED. Not because of any security measure in place. I for one feel no safer for any safety measure thought of so far.

As for my respect for other's lives, before you question other's dedication to human life, question your own dedication. What do you do in a single year, much less a day for anyone in your xenophobic, can't get into an elevator with anyone other than a child, scared of her own shadow life than yourself? I measure my respect for other's lives in more tangible ways than respect for a dumb rule thought up on the fly after a scary near miss that also produced a thoughtless comment like, "Our system worked" from Janet Napolitano. Maybe if you thought about something beyond yourself, you might too.

Oh, and BTW, if you can't find humor in the situation or compassion for the poor Nigerian man who was ripped off the toilet and arrested for having a GI bug, than you have no soul.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

For one, I'm not putting my racist mumbo jumbo crap out here. When I fly, I'm leary of any creepy looking person. Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist and I'm pretty sure he was white.

That's going to be super effective, you know, since ALL terrorists look creepy, and all creepy-looking people are terrorists!

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

And that bomb would have had MUCH impact on a city. They just reported on our news that had the bomb succeeded, it would have been over St. Claire Shores or Grosse Point.... two very residential areas. When planes crash they don't say "oh hey here's an open field, fall there", not that there'd be much open field in those two cities. And I can't believe your respect for other people's lives. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? A bomb is a bomb and a terrorist is a terrorist no matter how many people are killed.

So, do you choose one person at random in each of these threads to attack about being un-American, a terrorist sympathizer, and void of compassion for human life? Stop being such a drama queen. AOII_Angel isn't really even disagreeing with you. Get off her damned back.

Also, I get that this is scary for you, being a resident of Detroit and all, but jumping all over someone else's shit because you're scared is counterproductive. I totally understand why this stuff would freak you out, but honestly, I wish more people could think about these things logically or even be "cold" about it, because emotional responses to things like terrorism and fear of other countries wind us up in places like Iraq.

[DaemonSeid]

Remember Total Recall? Well now it's real...see what the Dutch are doing now.


and


TSA expands security measures

[moe.ron]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Remember Total Recall? Well now it's real...see what the Dutch are doing now.

Will we soon see 3 the boobs lady?

[AOII Angel]

Oh, the pat down. I wonder which one people with argue more about? Seeing them naked or feeling them? Thank you, Mr. Terrorist. You have just made international travel that much more difficult. Oh well, I'm still going to Paris in April!

I remember that I was in Sweden when the whole liquid explosive thing happened...we freaked out that we wouldn't be able to get back to the US. It wasn't that big of a deal; we just threw out all of our liquid toiletries that we didn't feel comfortable packing in our checked luggage. After 9/11, I had to travel to San Fran for the American College of Surgeons Convention with two colleagues, one from Bahrain and one from Afghanistan. We told them to stay with us (white americans) at all times. We didn't want them to look suspicious! Who ended up getting flagged at security...both ways? Me, the giggly blonde. I thought it was hilarious.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by moe.ron

Will we soon see 3 the boobs lady?

or find the location of Quatto aka bin Ladin?

Hmmm that's what it is...bin Ladin is some kind of mutant fused to another human!

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

or find the location of Quatto aka bin Ladin?

Hmmm that's what it is...bin Ladin is some kind of mutant fused to another human!

One with working kidneys I guess.

[DaemonSeid]

[DrPhil]

uh...yeah.....

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by bignasty

Do planes still go from NY to LA?

This is exactly what I was going to say.

Why does a person have to detonate a bomb on an international flight? Maybe the person has a connecting flight, and they set it off then. Or maybe the person has been living in the United States, and they set it off while flying from LA to DC.

There are many scenarios where a terrorist could be flying over the United States for more than an hour.

I don't think that this proposed change in policy is going to greatly deter anyone from attempting another attack.

[DaemonSeid]