Iraqi Soldiers could be suspended for being pregnant

[Psi U MC Vito]

Well according to the Daily News, they are backing down from the court martial threat. Now they are just going to be sent home with a letter of reprimand. That will hurt the career, but won't result in jail time. I will try to find the article online when I have time.

[BrainsnBeauty]

I'm a Navy wife and my husband and I actually agreed with it. I also agree that its good they are enforcing it on both women and men, seeing as how men are the reason women get pregnant in the first place. I'm tired of people blaming women for something men are half responsible for. As far as I'm concerned if a man is more concerned about impregnating a fellow soldier than keeping his focus on the war then he is just as guilty as a woman trying to get pregnant to get out.

[ree-Xi]

If the intent of getting pregnant is to get out of an upcoming or current deployment, these women are screwing themselves (not taking blame away from the men, but it's the women who would get taken out of combat).

Once the child is born, wouldn't they have to fulfill their obligation(s)? They could likely be sent back and have an infant at home. They might be able to put it off for a while if they are breastfeeding (I have no idea if this is possible), but they will have to eventually serve out their time, right?

I don't know the answer to this question - if you were scheduled to be deployed and ended up not being able to be sent to combat at that time - let's say you broke your leg or something else that would be a liability in a combat zone. Now, you can probably sill work stateside in an administrative role, but would you be held to eventually serve your deployment once you are healed? Once you have those orders, do you have to complete them "at some point" if such an occasion arises?

Another question - if you were scheduled to be deployed and something happened that permanently prevented you from carrying out combat orders - like you suddenly developed a heart murmur - but you were still able to do other stuff, are you just reassigned for the duration the rest of your enlistment (or whatever the correct word is) if it's safe for you and you are not a liability?

[ASUADPi]

While I understand wanting to stop those women who are deliberately getting pregnant while deployed in hopes of going home, I guess I have an issue with it because shit happens. Some women could be there (with her husband) and they accidently get pregnant. It's one of those "oh crap, we didn't mean this to happen" cases.

I really hope the general or the "higher ups" give these reprimands on a case by case basis. Yes, you are going to have the people who do it on purpose, but all shouldn't be punished because of the few. (unfortunately, though, we live in a society where it takes only a "few" to ruin it for 'all').

[agzg]

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

While I understand wanting to stop those women who are deliberately getting pregnant while deployed in hopes of going home, I guess I have an issue with it because shit happens. Some women could be there (with her husband) and they accidently get pregnant. It's one of those "oh crap, we didn't mean this to happen" cases.

I really hope the general or the "higher ups" give these reprimands on a case by case basis. Yes, you are going to have the people who do it on purpose, but all shouldn't be punished because of the few. (unfortunately, though, we live in a society where it takes only a "few" to ruin it for 'all').

I don't get your logic. They're DEPLOYED. Specifically, to Iraq. They have more important things to worry about than having an "oops, it happened" moment.

I would guess that the vast majority of pregnancies that happen while ON DEPLOYMENT, in IRAQ, are no "mistake."

[Telly10]

When in a Combat Zone, There is a rule against having sex- in the first place.

Its very distracting from the mission, and chances of STDs, Pregnancies, and other sex-related issues come up

Normally there is no place to have sex since most people sleep in shared tents/traliers...so those have sex normally have it in inappropriate places

However, there are special circumstances...In one of my deployments the Base commander had a special tent designed for married people (so they could have sex). However, that was very rare becuase married couples are NOT supposed to deploy together (in the same location- for more than one reason)

When soliders/seamen/airmen get preggo or catch an STD while deployed it LOWERS morale for those around them...it is very hard for others seeing people going home early (whatever the reason) while they have to serve the full deployment. Morale is normally already low because your away from family and friends.

Its a very good policy to enforce, and for those who disagree- most likely NEVER been to war. So, its easy for them to say what they would do, how the think they would feel or what their parents might have done...

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

^^^ Had to turn the brightness down on my monitor because AF's siggie read

"Good come F U "

Ditto. I was gonna crack about it saying that even when I turned my brightness down, then realized that was the volume I was fiddling with.

IDK if I said it before but ditto on punishment for both parties and not just the female.

[ASUADPi]

Originally Posted by agzg

I don't get your logic. They're DEPLOYED. Specifically, to Iraq. They have more important things to worry about than having an "oops, it happened" moment.

I would guess that the vast majority of pregnancies that happen while ON DEPLOYMENT, in IRAQ, are no "mistake."

Hello "oops" moments happen all the frickin time! I'm sure most children would be considered "oops" children! Deployment isn't the only time "oops" happens.

I'm also talking about the married couples (not the non marrieds), because as Telly10 pointed out, they are in shared quarters, that wasn't my point.

My point was that if there is a married couple and they have an "oops", I don't think they should be given the "riot notice" over some bonehead who wants out of his/her deployment.

Shit happens!

[Telly10]

Originally Posted by ree-Xi

I don't know the answer to this question - if you were scheduled to be deployed and ended up not being able to be sent to combat at that time - let's say you broke your leg or something else that would be a liability in a combat zone. Now, you can probably sill work stateside in an administrative role, but would you be held to eventually serve your deployment once you are healed? Once you have those orders, do you have to complete them "at some point" if such an occasion arises?

The Unit Commander can still bring you up on charges for breaking your leg and missing your slated deployment date. It is called damage to US Gov't property..(I'm not lying) Most Commanders wont do it though..and you would mostly deploy later- but you screwed up the 'schedule for everyone around you'

Another question - if you were scheduled to be deployed and something happened that permanently prevented you from carrying out combat orders - like you suddenly developed a heart murmur - but you were still able to do other stuff, are you just reassigned for the duration the rest of your enlistment (or whatever the correct word is) if it's safe for you and you are not a liability?

If someone becomes non-deployable for health reasons, its accepted- but promotions and awards (down the line) normally won't go to you. I know it doesnt sound fair- but thats the way it is. The person who deployed normally has a better sounding package since they have real world/ combat zone/ danger impacts that saved others..while they just had 'normal duties' in write ups

[amanda6035]

Originally Posted by Telly10

When in a Combat Zone, There is a rule against having sex- in the first place.

Its very distracting from the mission, and chances of STDs, Pregnancies, and other sex-related issues come up

Normally there is no place to have sex since most people sleep in shared tents/traliers...so those have sex normally have it in inappropriate places

However, there are special circumstances...In one of my deployments the Base commander had a special tent designed for married people (so they could have sex). However, that was very rare because married couples are NOT supposed to deploy together (in the same location- for more than one reason)

When soliders/seamen/airmen get preggo or catch an STD while deployed it LOWERS morale for those around them...it is very hard for others seeing people going home early (whatever the reason) while they have to serve the full deployment. Morale is normally already low because your away from family and friends.

Its a very good policy to enforce, and for those who disagree- most likely NEVER been to war. So, its easy for them to say what they would do, how the think they would feel or what their parents might have done...

Thank you, thank you, and thank you....

For the navy, if you were deployed and got pregnant, you had better hope that the baby's date of conception could be traced back to a time you were in a liberty port, because if you got pregnant during a time that the boat had been at sea for days and days, then it became a double whammy for you, because you just got caught having sex underway.