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				Unless it's an overall Panhel thing (i.e. all the sororities are having informal rush), I think it looks desperate.  Not to mention the sorority is pretty much showing their business - i.e. announcing "hey, we're under total and need to get our numbers up"  - and putting themselves in a position of having to explain to Courtney Love Junior exactly why they don't want to bid her when she shows up to the parties.  There is no "we had to cut a certain number of rushees" excuse like in formal rush. 
 
The same goes for chalking and facebook/myspace pages. 
 
A much better idea is to have every member of the sorority invite their personal friends to open bid parties. 
			
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I don't see it as desperate at all.
 
Depending on the campus, there may be a higher constitiuency of students who might not be otherwise quite aware of the existence of Greeks and its practices. There might also be no "formal" method of advertising informal recruitment for girls who went bidless, or for some reason did not go through formal rush. Some girls might have been interested but not have known where to look. 
 
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				So, as of right now, 3 are FOR and 1 is AGAINST.  
 
I'm split. :/ 
			
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 Um, what do YOU think about it? Do you know why the group did not reach total? Does it necessarily make them lesser because they have fewer members than they "ought to" have? I don't know what the situation is, but it seems like you might not know much about it, either. 
 
Why not check them out and see what they are about? You may just like what you see.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				I don't see it as desperate at all. 
 
Depending on the campus, there may be a higher constitiuency of students who might not be otherwise quite aware of the existence of Greeks and its practices. There might also be no "formal" method of advertising informal recruitment for girls who went bidless, or for some reason did not go through formal rush. Some girls might have been interested but not have known where to look.  
			
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 The way I look at it, a chapter that's struggling with numbers needs to attract people who want to be in THAT sorority, not A sorority.  YMMV.  
 
And I guess I'm dumb because I just realized the girl asking is a rushee, not a member.  I would inquire as to why you're asking, too.  But I will say - do you want to be in THAT sorority, or A sorority?  (More to the point, are you Courtney Love Junior?)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			For it!  And thank God because that's how I received my bid!   
 
Why is it desperate?  It is still a mutual selection process even though it isn't formal.  They could have 10 girls show up for 5 spots.  As much as you have the open invitation to attend an advertised event, they have the option to give or not give you a bid.  In the end, if you attend an advertised event you can meet the girls and see if you like them.  They may be fantastic....they might be kinda ick.  You won't know unless you take the chance.  What do you have to lose? 
 
Also, why do they have open spots?  Are they open because they had a large senior class that is graduating in December, do they have high academic standards and some of their sisters aren't making the grade, do they need to grow to meet total?  In the end, does it matter?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				I don't see it as desperate at all. 
 
Depending on the campus, there may be a higher constitiuency of students who might not be otherwise quite aware of the existence of Greeks and its practices. There might also be no "formal" method of advertising informal recruitment for girls who went bidless, or for some reason did not go through formal rush. Some girls might have been interested but not have known where to look.  
 
 
 
 
Um, what do YOU think about it? Do you know why the group did not reach total? Does it necessarily make them lesser because they have fewer members than they "ought to" have? I don't know what the situation is, but it seems like you might not know much about it, either.  
 
Why not check them out and see what they are about? You may just like what you see. 
			
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 I'm actually not a PNM anymore. I AM a sister of the chapter that is wanting to put out fliers. We were just chartered last year. This fall was the first time we participated in fall Formal Recruitment. (First "pledge" class, besides the Founding class).
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			The only reason I found out about recruitment was through fliers. All the houses had fliers and I went to some of the houses but not all. I was not close to any member in DG but the first time I went one girl made me feel so welcome and at home that I knew I found my sorority    So my conclusion is fliers=good.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				I'm actually not a PNM anymore. I AM a sister of the chapter that is wanting to put out fliers. We were just chartered last year. This fall was the first time we participated in fall Formal Recruitment. (First "pledge" class, besides the Founding class). 
			
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 If you are just getting started - I would try to go with the flow.  If other groups on campus flier, have at it.  If they don't, don't.   Depending on the campus, new groups are sometimes looked at askance anyway - the last thing you want to do is draw negative attention.
 
If fall formal didn't go as well as you'd hoped and you feel you need more training in recruitment (which you probably do - most new groups do) call up your HQ and tell them you need help and support in this area.  That's what they're there for.  That's what you pay dues for.  It is up to them to help you become strong, not just give you the charter and let you sink or swim on their own.  YOU ARE ENTITLED TO RECEIVE HELP.  Don't be afraid to ask.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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