Coat of Arms vs. Crest

[Gusteau]

I saw this thread title and thought, "Where's MysticCat?" LOL

In Delta Chi it is correctly referred to as the Coat of Arms. Unfortunately many members refer to it as the crest. Most of the Associate Members in my chapter, however, learn very quickly not refer to it incorrectly around me lest they incur the wrath of God.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Gusteau

I saw this thread title and thought, "Where's MysticCat?" LOL

I know -- I thought of you, too. The title just sucked us in, didn't it?

Originally Posted by naraht

Heraldically, the crest only applies to anything attached to the top of the helmet in a Coat of Arms.

I probably should have mentioned this earlier, but a coat of arms can, and often does, have a crest without a helmet. Among GLOs, think Beta, FIJI, Sigma Chi, Kappa Sig, ATO . . . .

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I know -- I thought of you, too. The title just sucked us in, didn't it?
I probably should have mentioned this earlier, but a coat of arms can, and often does, have a crest without a helmet. Among GLOs, think Beta, FIJI, Sigma Chi, Kappa Sig, ATO . . . .

Then again a lot of GLOs violate a lot of the rules of heraldry in their CoAs.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Then again a lot of GLOs violate a lot of the rules of heraldry in their CoAs.

True, but helmets are not usually considered essential elements in coats of arms. It is, I think, quite common to omit them in corporate, as opposed to personal, arms.