Global Warming Farce exposed for the farce it is.

[MysticCat]

Not sure there's much to comment on.

I've got no problem with actual scientific debate on global warming. But hackers leaking some emails from a relatively few people doesn't prove much of anything -- it certainly doesn't prove (or disprove) whether global warming is occuring.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I've got no problem with actual scientific debate on global warming.

I take it you didn't read the articles. It's clear there's no "actual science" involved.

But hackers leaking some emails from a relatively few people doesn't prove much of anything --

Uhm, the University of East Anglia is perhaps the premier research organization on climate change. Many facts that are commonly cited on the debate were created by the scientists at this University. Furthermore, the scientists were finding "Climate decline" instead of increases, but chose to suppress the evidence in favor of climate increase.

it certainly doesn't prove (or disprove) whether global warming is occuring.

It doesn't, but it definitely sheds light on the business.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I take it you didn't read the articles. It's clear there's no "actual science" involved.

I read two of them. One link didn't work. To be honest, the article from First Things (which I generally like) read to me like it was from The Onion. And with Fox I consider the source (just as I would with MSNBC or numerous other outlets).

I don't think the conclusion you've drawn is at all clear unless you want to find it there. It's just way too broad a characterization to say that what's reported in those articles shows that global warming is a farce. It's kind of the equivalent of exposing some Bible scholars -- put them at the Vatican or at Oxford, if you like -- who are trying to hide "real facts" and saying that you've exposed the Bible or Judaism or Christianity as a farce or hoax. Sort of a Dan Brown approach.

Maybe this points to something bigger, or maybe it's nothing more than some (allegedly) unethical scientists who are still nevetheless right about global warming, despite their lack of ethics.

It's the sensationalism of headlines like "farce exposed" that make me think thoughtful comments are not necessary because only reflexive comments are sought.

[dreamseeker]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

It's the sensationalism of headlines like "farce exposed" that make me think thoughtful comments are not necessary because only reflexive comments are sought.

which is why i (and prolly most people on GC) did not even bother responding.