Obama destroys another neighborhood.

dreamseeker · #1 11-13-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kish2

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_256021.html

Subisidized housing destroys neighborhoods. When I am named Commissioner of the universe I am going to do away with HUD. Why spend billions on housing for people that already destroyed their own neighborhoods?
As soon as the hoodrats move into the neighborhood they destroy the schools and crime always goes up. Then the good people that originally lived in the neighborhood leave. The result is a ghetto.

baci · #2 11-13-2009, 03:48 PM

Subsidized housing has ruined many areas where I live. Crime has gone up tremendously and the schools have gone to hell. It hasn't helped anyone in the longterm, IMO.

kish2 · #3 11-13-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by baci

Subsidized housing has ruined many areas where I live. Crime has gone up tremendously and the schools have gone to hell. It hasn't helped anyone in the longterm, IMO.

That is the problem. Some of the city schools that used to be good schools, now have 15 full time cops because of all the crime. I can't think of one neighborhood that has been improved and I can name dozens of neighborhoods that have been destroyed by the same people that destroyed their last neighborhoods. To top it off we are spending BILLIONS on these projects.

LaneSig · #4 11-13-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kish2

That is the problem. Some of the city schools that used to be good schools, now have 15 full time cops because of all the crime. I can't think of one neighborhood that has been improved and I can name dozens of neighborhoods that have been destroyed by the same people that destroyed their last neighborhoods. To top it off we are spending BILLIONS on these projects.

Please give specific examples of schools with 15 full time police officers and name the dozens of neighborhoods. It would help with your argument to give specific facts. Otherwise, it's just your opinion.

kish2 · #5 11-13-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LaneSig

Please give specific examples of schools with 15 full time police officers and name the dozens of neighborhoods. It would help with your argument to give specific facts. Otherwise, it's just your opinion.

Sure, that is easy. Lincoln HS in Phila has 14 full time cops and that is not even a big school. Name me one public school in Phila that does not have full time cops. Be specific!

All the integrated neighborhoods in the city have been destroyed.

N. Philly
S. Phila,
SW Phila,
NE Phila

I could pretty much name a dozen neighborhoods in EACH of those areas. Why do you think most people moved out of the city? The city population went from 2.1 mil down to 1.5 while the suburbs went from almost nothing to 3.5 million. The city has 400 murders per year while the burbs with double the population has very few murders. N. Philly is pretty much a warzone. The cops call it the badlands. The state actually leads the nation in black homicides thanks to a couple sq miles in N. Philly and you wonder why we won't let you in the pool.

The ONLY neighborhoods that have not been destroyed are the ones with minimal integration.

knight_shadow · #6 11-13-2009, 05:20 PM

Case in point...

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Originally Posted by kish2

Sure, that is easy. Lincoln HS in Phila has 14 full time cops and that is not even a big school. Name me one public school in Phila that does not have full time cops. Be specific!

All the integrated neighborhoods in the city have been destroyed.

N. Philly
S. Phila,
SW Phila,
NE Phila

I could pretty much name a dozen neighborhoods in EACH of those areas. Why do you think most people moved out of the city? The city population went from 2.1 mil down to 1.5 while the suburbs went from almost nothing to 3.5 million. The city has 400 murders per year while the burbs with double the population has very few murders. N. Philly is pretty much a warzone. The cops call it the badlands. The state actually leads the nation in black homicides thanks to a couple sq miles in N. Philly and you wonder why we won't let you in the pool.

The ONLY neighborhoods that have not been destroyed are the ones with minimal integration.

DrPhil · #7 11-13-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Case in point...

Try explaining WHY you think that post is BS.

LaneSig · #8 11-13-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kish2

Sure, that is easy. Lincoln HS in Phila has 14 full time cops and that is not even a big school. Name me one public school in Phila that does not have full time cops. Be specific!

All the integrated neighborhoods in the city have been destroyed.

N. Philly
S. Phila,
SW Phila,
NE Phila

I could pretty much name a dozen neighborhoods in EACH of those areas. Why do you think most people moved out of the city? The city population went from 2.1 mil down to 1.5 while the suburbs went from almost nothing to 3.5 million. The city has 400 murders per year while the burbs with double the population has very few murders. N. Philly is pretty much a warzone. The cops call it the badlands. The state actually leads the nation in black homicides thanks to a couple sq miles in N. Philly and you wonder why we won't let you in the pool.

The ONLY neighborhoods that have not been destroyed are the ones with minimal integration.

Okay, you named 1 school with 14 full time police officers. You originally said you could name "a dozen with 15 full time police officers". You have 14 more to go.

So, all of the bad neighborhoods and schools in Philadelphia are due to subsidized housing? It doesn't have anything to do with the trends in the '50s when families moved out to the suburbs due to their jobs, more affordable automobiles, and the building of the highway system that made access in and out of large cities possible?

sidenote: "Parking Wars" is one of my favorite shows.

kish2 · #9 11-13-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LaneSig

Okay, you named 1 school with 14 full time police officers. You originally said you could name "a dozen with 15 full time police officers". You have 14 more to go.

So, all of the bad neighborhoods and schools in Philadelphia are due to subsidized housing? It doesn't have anything to do with the trends in the '50s when families moved out to the suburbs due to their jobs, more affordable automobiles, and the building of the highway system that made access in and out of large cities possible?

sidenote: "Parking Wars" is one of my favorite shows.

Do you really want to play games? Take your pick. The twenty most dangerous schools in the state are all in Philly. They all have cops. http://www.philly.com/dailynews/loca...s_schools.html

Douglas High School
Edison / Fareira High School
Fels High School
Fitzsimmons High School
Frankford High School
Furness High School
Germantown High School
Harding Middle School
Kensington Culinary Arts
Kensington Intern Business,
Fitness and Entrepreneur
Lincoln High School
Northeast High School
Olney High School East
Olney High School West
Overbrook High School
Penn High School
Theodore Roosevelt Middle School
Roxborough High School
South Philadelphia High School
Stetson Middle School
Strawberry Mansion High School
University City High School
Vare Middle School
Vaux Middle School
West Philadelphia High School

Yes most of the bad neighborhoods are a result of subsidized housing.

People leaving does not destroy neighborhoods. It is the hoodrats that move into a neighborhood that destroy the neighborhood. Highways and cheap transportation did not cause people to leave it just made it easier for them to leave. It is the criminal element that causes most of the good people to leave.

kish2 · #10 11-13-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamseeker

Are you going to dispute my post?

PS. Get a job and take care of your kids.

dreamseeker · #11 11-13-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kish2

Are you going to dispute my post?

PS. Get a job and take care of your kids.

hope making an ass of yourself on the INTERNET felt good.