I love the discussion here and some of the stories have been very touching. Though I would want my fiance to ask my parent's or spiritual guardian (if my parents were unavailable) for permission to marry me I completely understand and respect where someone else may be turned off by that gesture.
One interesting thing I saw repeated a lot was that people would feel strange if others knew about a proposal before they did. How much discussion do people have about an upcoming proposal before the guy proposes? Are people completely shocked because it was never discussed? Do some have an ideal but never really have a concrete conversation or do others fully expect it and have had a conversation beforehand and are just waiting for the actually proposal? I would love to hear the experiences and thoughts around how much a proposal is discussed and known beforehand.
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