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Old 10-14-2009, 12:12 PM
angels&angles angels&angles is offline
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I'm not trying to start a brawl here... but it seems somewhat misleading to list the dates of Phi Mu an ADPi as being the 1850's. They were founded as the Philomathean and Adelphean literary societies in the 1850's, but did not become Phi Mu and ADPi until the 1900's. So while the groups had origins in the 1850's, it's arguable that they were not in fact founded until the 1900's.

Most of the time I've seen those orgs list their founding dates with that caveat. For example, the Phi Mu website says "Phi Mu was founded in 1852 at Wesleyan College in Macon, Georgia. It began as the Philomathean Society, a literary society, and is the second oldest secret society for women. The Philomathean Society became Phi Mu Fraternity in 1904." The ADPi website lists their founding date as 1851 in most places, but on their timeline says, "1851: Alpha Delta Pi was founded by Eugenia Tucker on May 15th as The Adelphean Society, making it the first secret society for women....1905: The Adelphean Society changed its name to Alpha Delta Phi and became a national organization."

The same could be said of Pi Beta Phi, which was "I.C. Sorosis" until 1888, when they took the name Pi Beta Phi.

Maybe I'm splitting hairs here. I know every group wants to claim to be the first! I guess it just depends on whether or not the name of the group matters - it seems that these groups had a fairly continuous purpose from their founding to the name change and onward. Nonetheless, in my mind, Kappa Alpha Theta is the first.
Yes, but unlike ADPi/Phi Mu, Pi Phi was founded as a women's fraternity (since the word sorority hadn't been coined yet.) The name changed, yes, but it's always been a fraternity (still is).

...What? I like brawling.
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Old 10-14-2009, 12:18 PM
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Yes, but unlike ADPi/Phi Mu, Pi Phi was founded as a women's fraternity (since the word sorority hadn't been coined yet.) The name changed, yes, but it's always been a fraternity (still is).
That's why I included it as kind of an afterthought... it didn't really fall into the same category as the other two.

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Old 10-14-2009, 12:50 PM
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Yes, but unlike ADPi/Phi Mu, Pi Phi was founded as a women's fraternity (since the word sorority hadn't been coined yet.) The name changed, yes, but it's always been a fraternity (still is).

...What? I like brawling.
Many NPCs are founded as Women's Fraternities.

Mine included.
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Old 10-14-2009, 01:17 PM
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The North-American Interfraternity Conference

Apologies in advance for any incorrect information. Information was gathered from various sources and may not be accrete due to mergers, name changes, out of date and or incorrect listings.

The current 73 members of the NIC
In year, month, day order.

Chi Phi - Princeton - 1824.12.24
Kappa Alpha Society - Union - 1825.11.26
Sigma Phi Society - Union - 1827.03.04
Delta Phi - Union - 1827.11.17
Alpha Delta Phi - Hamilton - 1832.01.01
Psi Upsilon - Union - 1833.11.24
Delta Upsilon - Williams - 1834.11.04
Beta Theta Pi - Miami - 1839.08.08
Chi Psi - Union - 1841.05.20
Delta Kappa Epsilon - Yale - 1844.06.22
Alpha Sigma Phi - Yale - 1845.12.06
Delta Psi - Columbia - 1847.01.17
Zeta Psi - New York University - 1847.06.01
Theta Delta Chi - Union - 1847.10.31
Phi Gamma Delta - Jefferson & Washington - 1848.05.01
Phi Kappa Sigma - Pennsylvania - 1850.07.16
Phi Kappa Psi - Jefferson & Washington - 1852.02.19
Sigma Chi - Miami - 1855.06.28
Sigma Alpha Epsilon - Alabama - 1856.03.09
Theta Chi - Norwich - 1856.04.10
Delta Tau Delta - Bethany - 1858.10.10
Theta Xi - Rensselaer - 1864.04.29
Alpha Tau Omega - Virginia Military - 1865.09.11
Kappa Alpha Order - Washington & Lee - 1865.12.21
Pi Kappa Alpha - Virginia - 1868.03.01
Sigma Nu - Virginia Military - 1869.01.01
Phi Sigma Kappa - Massachusetts - 1873.03.17
Phi Kappa Theta - Ohio State - 1889.04.29
Delta Chi - Cornell - 1890.10.30
Pi Lambda Phi - Yale - 1895.00.00
Alpha Chi Rho - Trinity - 1895.06.04
Sigma Pi - Vincennes - 1897.02.26
Zeta Beta Tau - CCNY - 1898.12.29
Tau Kappa Epsilon - Illinois Wesleyan - 1899.01.10
Delta Sigma Phi - CCNY - 1899.10.10
Kappa Delta Phi - Bridgewater State - 1900.04.14
Sigma Phi Epsilon - Richmond - 1901.11.01
Acacia - Michigan - 1904.05.12
Alpha Gamma Rho - Ohio State - 1904.10.10
Pi Kappa Phi - College of Charleston - 1904.12.10
FarmHouse - Missouri - 1905.04.15
Kappa Delta Rho - Middlebury - 1905.05.17
Phi Kappa Tau - Miami - 1906.03.17
Alpha Phi Alpha - Cornell - 1906.12.04
Triangle - Illinois - 1907.04.15
Lambda Chi Alpha - Boston University - 1909.11.02
Sigma Alpha Mu - CCNY - 1909.11.26
Tau Delta Phi - CCNY - 1910.06.30
Tau Epsilon Phi - Columbia - 1910.10.10
Kappa Alpha Psi - Indiana - 1911.01.05
Alpha Epsilon Pi - New York University - 1913.11.07
Phi Beta Sigma - Howard - 1914.01.09
Alpha Phi Delta - Syracuse - 1914.11.05
Alpha Kappa Lambda - California, Berkeley - 1914-04.22
Phi Mu Delta - Connecticut - 1918.03.01
Sigma Tau Gamma - Central Missouri State - 1920.06.28
Alpha Gamma Sigma - Missouri - 1923.01.28
Sigma Phi Delta - Southern California - 1924.04.11
Alpha Delta Gamma - Loyola Chicago - 1924.10.10
Phi Lambda Chi - Central Arkansas - 1925.03.25
Beta Sigma Psi - Illinois - 1925.04.17
Phi Iota Alpha - Rensselaer - 1931.12.26
Iota Phi Theta - Morgan State - 1963.09.19
Lambda Theta Phi - Kean - 1975.12.01
Lambda Sigma Upsilon - Rutgers - 1979.04.05
Lambda Phi Epsilon - UCLA - 1981.02.25
Sigma Lambda Beta - Iowa - 1986.04.04
Omega Delta Phi - Texas Tech - 1987.11.25
Nu Alpha Kappa - California Polytechnic - San Luis Obispo - 1988.02.26
Phi Sigma Phi - South Bend - 1988.07.30
Iota Nu Delta - Binghamton - 1994.02.07
Sigma Beta Rho - Pennsylvania - 1996.08.16
Beta Chi Theta - UCLA - 1999.06.02

Former NIC members

Phi Delta Theta - Miami - 1848.12.26
Kappa Sigma - Virginia - 1869.12.10
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:25 PM
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[QUOTE=angels&angles;1857284]Yes, but unlike ADPi/Phi Mu, Pi Phi was founded as a women's fraternity (since the word sorority hadn't been coined yet.) The name changed, yes, but it's always been a fraternity (still is). [QUOTE]

Actually, Phi Mu is still considered a fraternity for the same reason you list for Pi Phi.
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:51 AM
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Yes, but unlike ADPi/Phi Mu, Pi Phi was founded as a women's fraternity (since the word sorority hadn't been coined yet.) The name changed, yes, but it's always been a fraternity (still is).
Actually, Phi Mu is still considered a fraternity for the same reason you list for Pi Phi.
I think, though, that she was saying that Phi Mu and ADPi were originally called "Societies."
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