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10-14-2009, 09:59 AM
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If you wait until I get back later, my pledge manual has a list of the founding dates of all GLOs and I'll type it up.
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10-14-2009, 10:10 AM
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If you wait until I get back later, my pledge manual has a list of the founding dates of all GLOs and I'll type it up.
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Of all GLOs?
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10-14-2009, 10:51 AM
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Of all GLOs?
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To clarify, most inter/national fraternities and sororities. Looking at the list now, it doesn't appear to have any NALFO orgs though all the D9 is on there. It stops at Iota Phi Theta for men's fraternities and at Sigma Gamma Rho for women's fraternities and sororities.
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10-14-2009, 11:28 AM
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To clarify, most inter/national fraternities and sororities. Looking at the list now, it doesn't appear to have any NALFO orgs though all the D9 is on there. It stops at Iota Phi Theta for men's fraternities and at Sigma Gamma Rho for women's fraternities and sororities.
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm betting none of the music greeks are on the list. Since I happen to have that info handy (and I hope it's all correct), I'll go ahead. The organizations that participate in the National Interfraternity Music Council), in order of founding:
- Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia -- October 6, 1898 (New England Conservatory of Music, Boston)
- Sigma Alpha Iota -- June 12, 1903 (University School of Music, Ann Arbor)
- Mu Phi Epsilon -- November 13, 1903 (Metropolitan College of Music, Cincinnati)
- Delta Omicron -- September 6, 1909) (Cincinnati Conservatory of Music)
- Phi Beta May 5, 1912 (Northwestern University, Evanston)
- Kappa Kappa Psi -- November 27, 1919 (Oklahoma A&M College (now Oklahoma State University))
- Tau Beta Sigma -- March 26, 1946 (Oklahoma A&M College (now Oklahoma State University))
You know, GC has a section showing "Today's Birthdays." I've often thought that there should be a "Today's Founders Days" notice.
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10-14-2009, 11:32 AM
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm betting none of the music greeks are on the list. Since I happen to have that info handy (and I hope it's all correct), I'll go ahead. The organizations that participate in the National Interfraternity Music Council), in order of founding:
- Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia -- October 6, 1898 (New England Conservatory of Music, Boston)
- Sigma Alpha Iota -- June 12, 1903 (University School of Music, Ann Arbor)
- Mu Phi Epsilon -- November 13, 1903 (Metropolitan College of Music, Cincinnati)
- Delta Omicron -- September 6, 1909) (Cincinnati Conservatory of Music)
- Phi Beta May 5, 1912 (Northwestern University, Evanston)
- Kappa Kappa Psi -- November 27, 1919 (Oklahoma A&M College (now Oklahoma State University))
- Tau Beta Sigma -- March 26, 1946 (Oklahoma A&M College (now Oklahoma State University))
You know, GC has a section showing "Today's Birthdays." I've often thought that there should be a "Today's Founders Days" notice.
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Nope none of the music greeks, and I just had the same thought about founders day. Maybe if people would register as the organization name and put the founding date as the birthday? And I added SDT.
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10-14-2009, 12:09 PM
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And I'm just catching on (yes, I'm slow today) that ree-Xi only asked about NPC orgs. Sorry.
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In later posts, I said that I am interested in chronicling all of the Inter/National groups in the major umbrella organizations.
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10-14-2009, 11:39 AM
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I'm not trying to start a brawl here... but it seems somewhat misleading to list the dates of Phi Mu an ADPi as being the 1850's. They were founded as the Philomathean and Adelphean literary societies in the 1850's, but did not become Phi Mu and ADPi until the 1900's. So while the groups had origins in the 1850's, it's arguable that they were not in fact founded until the 1900's.
Most of the time I've seen those orgs list their founding dates with that caveat. For example, the Phi Mu website says "Phi Mu was founded in 1852 at Wesleyan College in Macon, Georgia. It began as the Philomathean Society, a literary society, and is the second oldest secret society for women. The Philomathean Society became Phi Mu Fraternity in 1904." The ADPi website lists their founding date as 1851 in most places, but on their timeline says, "1851: Alpha Delta Pi was founded by Eugenia Tucker on May 15th as The Adelphean Society, making it the first secret society for women....1905: The Adelphean Society changed its name to Alpha Delta Phi and became a national organization."
The same could be said of Pi Beta Phi, which was "I.C. Sorosis" until 1888, when they took the name Pi Beta Phi.
Maybe I'm splitting hairs here. I know every group wants to claim to be the first!  I guess it just depends on whether or not the name of the group matters - it seems that these groups had a fairly continuous purpose from their founding to the name change and onward. Nonetheless, in my mind, Kappa Alpha Theta is the first.
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10-14-2009, 12:08 PM
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I'm not trying to start a brawl here... but it seems somewhat misleading to list the dates of Phi Mu an ADPi as being the 1850's. They were founded as the Philomathean and Adelphean literary societies in the 1850's, but did not become Phi Mu and ADPi until the 1900's. So while the groups had origins in the 1850's, it's arguable that they were not in fact founded until the 1900's.
Most of the time I've seen those orgs list their founding dates with that caveat. For example, the Phi Mu website says "Phi Mu was founded in 1852 at Wesleyan College in Macon, Georgia. It began as the Philomathean Society, a literary society, and is the second oldest secret society for women. The Philomathean Society became Phi Mu Fraternity in 1904." The ADPi website lists their founding date as 1851 in most places, but on their timeline says, "1851: Alpha Delta Pi was founded by Eugenia Tucker on May 15th as The Adelphean Society, making it the first secret society for women....1905: The Adelphean Society changed its name to Alpha Delta Phi and became a national organization."
The same could be said of Pi Beta Phi, which was "I.C. Sorosis" until 1888, when they took the name Pi Beta Phi.
Maybe I'm splitting hairs here. I know every group wants to claim to be the first!  I guess it just depends on whether or not the name of the group matters - it seems that these groups had a fairly continuous purpose from their founding to the name change and onward. Nonetheless, in my mind, Kappa Alpha Theta is the first.
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If members of their respective groups would like to share this type of info, that would be great, because I am only going by the sororities' own websites and NPC info. So please, if you have changes, feel free to PM to me so I can keep updating my list.
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10-14-2009, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by littleowl33
I'm not trying to start a brawl here... but it seems somewhat misleading to list the dates of Phi Mu an ADPi as being the 1850's. They were founded as the Philomathean and Adelphean literary societies in the 1850's, but did not become Phi Mu and ADPi until the 1900's. So while the groups had origins in the 1850's, it's arguable that they were not in fact founded until the 1900's.
Most of the time I've seen those orgs list their founding dates with that caveat. For example, the Phi Mu website says "Phi Mu was founded in 1852 at Wesleyan College in Macon, Georgia. It began as the Philomathean Society, a literary society, and is the second oldest secret society for women. The Philomathean Society became Phi Mu Fraternity in 1904." The ADPi website lists their founding date as 1851 in most places, but on their timeline says, "1851: Alpha Delta Pi was founded by Eugenia Tucker on May 15th as The Adelphean Society, making it the first secret society for women....1905: The Adelphean Society changed its name to Alpha Delta Phi and became a national organization."
The same could be said of Pi Beta Phi, which was "I.C. Sorosis" until 1888, when they took the name Pi Beta Phi.
Maybe I'm splitting hairs here. I know every group wants to claim to be the first!  I guess it just depends on whether or not the name of the group matters - it seems that these groups had a fairly continuous purpose from their founding to the name change and onward. Nonetheless, in my mind, Kappa Alpha Theta is the first.
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Yes, but unlike ADPi/Phi Mu, Pi Phi was founded as a women's fraternity (since the word sorority hadn't been coined yet.) The name changed, yes, but it's always been a fraternity (still is).
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10-14-2009, 12:18 PM
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Yes, but unlike ADPi/Phi Mu, Pi Phi was founded as a women's fraternity (since the word sorority hadn't been coined yet.) The name changed, yes, but it's always been a fraternity (still is).
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That's why I included it as kind of an afterthought... it didn't really fall into the same category as the other two.
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10-14-2009, 12:50 PM
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Yes, but unlike ADPi/Phi Mu, Pi Phi was founded as a women's fraternity (since the word sorority hadn't been coined yet.) The name changed, yes, but it's always been a fraternity (still is).
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Many NPCs are founded as Women's Fraternities.
Mine included.
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10-14-2009, 10:25 PM
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[QUOTE=angels&angles;1857284]Yes, but unlike ADPi/Phi Mu, Pi Phi was founded as a women's fraternity (since the word sorority hadn't been coined yet.) The name changed, yes, but it's always been a fraternity (still is). [QUOTE]
Actually, Phi Mu is still considered a fraternity for the same reason you list for Pi Phi.
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10-14-2009, 10:15 AM
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If you wait until I get back later, my pledge manual has a list of the founding dates of all GLOs and I'll type it up.
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How sweet of you! Thank you! I wasn't asking anyone to do the work for me, but wondered if it had already been done. If not, I was going to start a list of NPCs, then go on to the other national umbrellas.
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