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Old 10-05-2009, 03:05 PM
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There (sic) pay is only a few bucks an hour more than non union workers at Toyota, Honda, or Nissan. The biggest difference in the Big 3's cost is the underfunded pensions which is management's fault. You should also blame the 20,000 other companies(mostly NON union) that also have underfunded pensions.
That's laughable. It's not just the pay, it's the rigid job descriptions, the overpayment of people like janitors, the refusal to outsource for things like janitorial services, etc. Unions hamstring companies and are the reason decent paying manufacturing jobs in the U.S. are history.

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PS. How much do union plumbers make vs non union plumbers? About double?
Actually, the plumbers and pipefitters union actually works with employers to ensure that employers receive a decent profit while providing employment. The formula (in theory) is supposed to actually make it less expensive for a company to use union labor instead of non-union. This is a good example of a union doing what all unions ought to be doing.
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