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10-05-2009, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06
Make the best of it. That involves not coming here to post another criticism of Eyeliner every day (with some of them being as silly as "low dues.")
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Thank you!
If you're having doubts, that's fine. But we here on GC don't need to be told every little thing that Eyeliner does that bothers you and/or makes you second guess the decisions you made throughout recruitment.
No matter what you post here, everyone is going to tell you the same thing over and over again: Stick it out for a little while longer. Don't think about the other sorority. If you do, drop out. etc. etc.
To be honest (and I could be wrong), it sounds as if you want someone to tell you to drop out. You're complaining that your sorority has low dues and is COBing? These aren't huge issues! A lot of girls would kill to be in a sorority, and would gladly deal with these "problems".
And through reading over some of your posts again, it also sounds as if you don't want to be in this sorority (and want to be in another) for very superficial reasons. Eyeliner apparently has the closest sisterhood, but they might not have the most extravagant events.. And they have to recruit after formal.. and..? That's it. Unless something else comes up tomorrow.
But please, by all means, correct me if I'm wrong.
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10-05-2009, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06
Thank you!
If you're having doubts, that's fine. But we here on GC don't need to be told every little thing that Eyeliner does that bothers you and/or makes you second guess the decisions you made throughout recruitment.
No matter what you post here, everyone is going to tell you the same thing over and over again: Stick it out for a little while longer. Don't think about the other sorority. If you do, drop out. etc. etc.
To be honest (and I could be wrong), it sounds as if you want someone to tell you to drop out. You're complaining that your sorority has low dues and is COBing? These aren't huge issues! A lot of girls would kill to be in a sorority, and would gladly deal with these "problems".
And through reading over some of your posts again, it also sounds as if you don't want to be in this sorority (and want to be in another) for very superficial reasons. Eyeliner apparently has the closest sisterhood, but they might not have the most extravagant events.. And they have to recruit after formal.. and..? That's it. Unless something else comes up tomorrow.
But please, by all means, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Ok, can you tell me why my process is wrong? Why is expressing my concerns to eventually get over them bad? I've acknowledged that I don't want to feel this way and that is why I am trying. If I didn't care, I would have dropped.
I am sticking it out! I am not planning on dropping! I have thought about it maybe before initiation but I really doubt I will. Unlike many, I can't not think about the other sorority. Sorry. These feelings are recent and strong and I need to get them out to get over them.
I definitely don't want someone to tell me to drop out, and if they did I would reassure them that I am not. I'm sorry that I am complaining about things. They bother me and I'm not going to pretend they don't. Again that is how I work through my problems. There are no perfect situations and no completely horrible (where everything is wrong) situations either. I can either compare to both or neither (blush or no sorority).
I think all the sororities have great sisterhood to be completely honest. I can only talk from my situation but it appears that they do. Maybe my reasons for feeling the way I do are wrong, but the fact is I want to get over my concerns. That's the difference
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10-05-2009, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Ggirl617
Ok, can you tell me why my process is wrong? Why is expressing my concerns to eventually get over them bad? I've acknowledged that I don't want to feel this way and that is why I am trying. If I didn't care, I would have dropped.
I am sticking it out! I am not planning on dropping! I have thought about it maybe before initiation but I really doubt I will. Unlike many, I can't not think about the other sorority. Sorry. These feelings are recent and strong and I need to get them out to get over them.
I definitely don't want someone to tell me to drop out, and if they did I would reassure them that I am not. I'm sorry that I am complaining about things. They bother me and I'm not going to pretend they don't. Again that is how I work through my problems. There are no perfect situations and no completely horrible (where everything is wrong) situations either. I can either compare to both or neither (blush or no sorority).
I think all the sororities have great sisterhood to be completely honest. I can only talk from my situation but it appears that they do. Maybe my reasons for feeling the way I do are wrong, but the fact is I want to get over my concerns. That's the difference
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Because it kind of doesn't seem like you are writing it down here to vent it out, it seems like you are writing it for validation as to why you should dump eyeliner.
I understand what you are trying to do and it IS a good idea. Not trying to chase you off, but I don't think this is the best venue. It might be better for you to vent it all out in a paper journal. That way if you feel differently later, you can burn it. Internet entries, not so much.
And the low dues complaint was silly. Dues are different for very different reasons, and assuming that the most expensive thing is the best is a bad way to look at anything, let alone sororities.
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10-05-2009, 01:45 AM
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33girl-
I am not lying. Everything I have said is what I feel and that includes not wanting people to tell me to drop eyeliner.
The reason I chose this venue is because unlike a journal there would be feedback and from the absolute best source.
I do not know the details of my dues, as I haven't had a chance to ask yet. I agree to disagree. I think more resources is never a bad thing.
lilsunshine-
I get what you're saying, and they must think I'm lying then, because I've repeated my intentions in almost every single post.
Perhaps it is done as a recruitment thread, but it is now a sorority life thread. I'm sorry, but I will admit that there are downsides to it, and not talking about them does not make them not there.
I like this avenue, because it will provide the best source of advice. I think you're right though. I have been ungrateful. I don't deserve to be in a sorority, it's a privilege.
TO EVERYONE-
If I can't get past my issues, that is the only reason I would drop. I'm trying guys.
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10-05-2009, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Ggirl617
33girl-
I am not lying. Everything I have said is what I feel and that includes not wanting people to tell me to drop eyeliner.
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I never used the word lying, or said you were writing things that were not what you feel. I was telling you how it is coming across to others when you write it.
If you feel a need for consistent and immediate feedback, I would consult a campus therapist. I think you have things going on inside that have more to do with what sorority you put down first on your bid card.
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10-05-2009, 02:00 AM
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I know. I just wanted to assure that the way it was coming across was not what I meant. I'm sorry of how it came across, but I worded it exactly the way I felt so I don't know how it could have been different.
Perhaps. I don't need the feedback though. It is nice to post here and see what others have to say, but like I said if it is better off, I can go. I am not trying to be a nuisance or cause trouble. I can get through this by expressing this to other people. There are tons of other people in my life that are there for me when I need them. They are simply not familiar with the Greek system at all. You guys know the ins and outs. That's all.
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10-05-2009, 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ggirl617
33girl-
I am not lying. Everything I have said is what I feel and that includes not wanting people to tell me to drop eyeliner.
The reason I chose this venue is because unlike a journal there would be feedback and from the absolute best source.
I do not know the details of my dues, as I haven't had a chance to ask yet. I agree to disagree. I think more resources is never a bad thing.
lilsunshine-
I get what you're saying, and they must think I'm lying then, because I've repeated my intentions in almost every single post.
Perhaps it is done as a recruitment thread, but it is now a sorority life thread. I'm sorry, but I will admit that there are downsides to it, and not talking about them does not make them not there.
I like this avenue, because it will provide the best source of advice. I think you're right though. I have been ungrateful. I don't deserve to be in a sorority, it's a privilege.
TO EVERYONE-
If I can't get past my issues, that is the only reason I would drop. I'm trying guys.
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This.
There are many red flags in your conflicts and doubts, your ups and downs, your highs and lows, which you are posting to the internet, where they will Live Forever. This no longer appears to be merely about Eyeliner.
We cannot give you any sort of reliable or valid feedback about Eyeliner and what you are feeling, because we are not living your life. You are.
I've re-read through this thread, and nowhere do I see the words "lying", or "ungrateful", until you used them.
What I do see are many supportive, patient, and encouraging responses.
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10-05-2009, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AzTheta
This.
There are many red flags in your conflicts and doubts, your ups and downs, your highs and lows, which you are posting to the internet, where they will Live Forever. This no longer appears to be merely about Eyeliner.
We cannot give you any sort of reliable or valid feedback about Eyeliner and what you are feeling, because we are not living your life. You are.
I've re-read through this thread, and nowhere do I see the words "lying", or "ungrateful", until you used them.
What I do see are many supportive, patient, and encouraging responses.
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Perhaps I can never reveal my school or chapter then. I'm sorry about leading you guys on. I admit I did not fully think through being able to eventually tell you guys. I'm not sure what you mean when you say this is not merely about eyeliner. I think my problem is that I am all good with eyeliner, until I start comparing.
I don't think your comment about the feedback is true. No one is living my life, but me, and I have gotten tons of helpful advice in my life from others.
Oh. I was confused why people were interpreting my words differently then. One of the people who responded was saying I was coming off differently, and I wanted to clarify that the words I wrote were exactly what I meant. I did not mean to use the word lying with a bad connotation, I simply meant, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, what I wrote is exactly what I meant. I didn't understand at first why they thought I meant something else. The only thing I could think of was that they maybe thought I was lying.
Someone said I wasn't being grateful, but it's ok, because she was right. I wasn't.
I agree there are many great responses as well that have helped me tremendously.
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10-05-2009, 10:21 AM
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Perhaps I can never reveal my school or chapter then.
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PERHAPS? You've dug yourself a pretty deep hole here...it's best if you remain as anonymous as possible.
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10-05-2009, 12:16 PM
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Ok, so I am anonymous. I still can't work through my story then? Dug myself a hole? Except for being ungrateful and not thinking through the anonymity I really don't see what I've done wrong. Again, I'm sorry if I've upset anyone.
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