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Old 10-04-2009, 10:48 AM
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If it was a lost cause from the get-go, I wonder why they were over there in the first place, exposing themselves and the country to a humiliation, which is what happened.
I really don't understand why people are huffing and puffing and feigning humiliation. Really? Get over it. The Olympics are supposed to be about cooperation, friendship, fostering understanding, and unity through friendly competition. People who are using the Olympic selection as a chance to blame Obama for something, anything, through really faulty logic, just come across as out of touch with reality and bitter. Be happy for the winner and stop acting like a sore loser.
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Old 10-04-2009, 05:04 PM
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I really don't understand why people are huffing and puffing and feigning humiliation. Really? Get over it. The Olympics are supposed to be about cooperation, friendship, fostering understanding, and unity through friendly competition. People who are using the Olympic selection as a chance to blame Obama for something, anything, through really faulty logic, just come across as out of touch with reality and bitter. Be happy for the winner and stop acting like a sore loser.
There is no "feigning" humiliation. Obama himself interjected the office of the Presidenf of the United States into the process. Obama is the one who totally misread the room in Copenhagen. Second would not have been so bad, but fourth? To get 18 votes out of 95? In what reality is that not an embarrassment?

If internet posters are smart enough to see that it just wasn't Chicago's "time", why didn't supposedly one of the smartest people ever to be President realize the same thing?

Look, I know not getting the Olympics isn't the end of the world. I am not a sore loser. I don't want the Olympics here. The Olympics are a corrupt organization that too often cow-tows to regimes of very questionable character (see 1936, 1980, 2008, 2014) and too often shows itself to be morally bankrupt (see 1972 and the entire Avery Brundage experience).

What I see with resect to the Chicago non-selection is that some people are having a hard time admitting that the President made a big blunder on a big stage. Not seeing that is, to me, coming across as not being in touch with reality. Maybe the reality is that his judgment isn't as great as he would have us believe.
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Old 10-04-2009, 06:20 PM
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There is no "feigning" humiliation. Obama himself interjected the office of the Presidenf of the United States into the process. Obama is the one who totally misread the room in Copenhagen. Second would not have been so bad, but fourth? To get 18 votes out of 95? In what reality is that not an embarrassment?

If internet posters are smart enough to see that it just wasn't Chicago's "time", why didn't supposedly one of the smartest people ever to be President realize the same thing?

Look, I know not getting the Olympics isn't the end of the world. I am not a sore loser. I don't want the Olympics here. The Olympics are a corrupt organization that too often cow-tows to regimes of very questionable character (see 1936, 1980, 2008, 2014) and too often shows itself to be morally bankrupt (see 1972 and the entire Avery Brundage experience).

What I see with resect to the Chicago non-selection is that some people are having a hard time admitting that the President made a big blunder on a big stage. Not seeing that is, to me, coming across as not being in touch with reality. Maybe the reality is that his judgment isn't as great as he would have us believe.
I really am not one to defend everything Obama does, so spare me the lecture. And yes, I still think you need to get over it.

P.S. It's kowtow.
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Old 10-04-2009, 06:39 PM
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For anyone who thinks Obama's presence made the US look silly, you might want to consider the fact that Japan's Prime Minister, Brazil's President, and Spain's President were all in Copenhagen and they all made presentations.

So, actually, the US would have looked silly if Obama *hadn't* been there. He would have been the only leading governmental figure of the four countries in the final vote to be absent.

Seriously. Let's try to look at this with a little perspective.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:08 PM
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So, actually, the US would have looked silly if Obama *hadn't* been there. He would have been the only leading governmental figure of the four countries in the final vote to be absent.
According to CBS, Obama was there to give a presentation but he left before they voted. CBS also implied that Chicago might have not been ousted in the first round had Obama actually stayed a few hours more. But of course that is speculation, and doesn't really matter in the long run.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:22 PM
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^^Sorry, I didn't mean to imply he was there for the vote. I just meant that he would have been the only one not to make a presentation in advance of the final vote, of the 4 countries who were up for the final vote.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:23 PM
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^^Sorry, I didn't mean to imply he was there for the vote. I just meant that he would have been the only one not to make a presentation in advance of the final vote, of the 4 countries who were up for the final vote.
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