Survivor: Samoa

SydneyK · #1 09-25-2009, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I hate to say this, but I have to hand it to Russell. It seems like he's got this show figured out. If I hadn't seen the first episode, I might actually not dislike him. I still hope he goes down the road of being blindsided with it still sitting in his bag, though.

Ditto. I still dislike him, but he's got some stiff competition at this point: Ben is a jerk. I don't think he needed to have apologized for knocking Yasmin down (Yas was really grating on my nerves during that whole exchange), so my dislike for him isn't really connected to the challenge. He's just so... what's a good adjective here?... thoughtless? inconsiderate? mean-spirited? I'd love to see a good Ben/Russell showdown at Tribal.

What's the story with the hidden immunity idol? Does Russell know that he found the other tribe's HII? Can he use the other tribe's HII?

MysticCat · #2 09-25-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Jeff asks questions because he doesn't know what's been going on at camp (supposedly - some of his questions are so on point that I can't believe he doesn't have SOME knowledge) . . . .

He has to know what's been going on.

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Originally Posted by SydneyK

I don't think he needed to have apologized for knocking Yasmin down (Yas was really grating on my nerves during that whole exchange), so my dislike for him isn't really connected to the challenge.

Wasn't it Good Russell that he tripped?

I thought he should have apologized (whether he really needed to or not), but the apology should have been to his tribe. Jeff had given them a warning, he ignored it, he got pulled and his team lost. He should have apologized to them.

What is it about the social aspect of this game that some of these people (Ben, Yasmin) don't understand? "That's just the way this outlaw rolls" won't cut it, because even if they keep him around for now, that's just the way that outlaw alienates the people who have the power to (1) vote him off or (2) vote against him on a jury.

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What's the story with the hidden immunity idol? Does Russell know that he found the other tribe's HII? Can he use the other tribe's HII?

I wondered the same thing.

SydneyK · #3 09-25-2009, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat

Wasn't it Good Russell that he tripped?

It was his tripping of Good Russell that got him ejected from the game, but Yasmin was going off on him for tackling her "like a dude."

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I thought he should have apologized (whether he really needed to or not), but the apology should have been to his tribe. Jeff had given them a warning, he ignored it, he got pulled and his team lost. He should have apologized to them.

I agree - I thought he should have apologized to his tribe (and, possibly, to Good Russell) for flagrantly breaking the rules Jeff had just warned about. But I don't think he owed an apology to Yasmin for tackling her (and that's what I think she wanted from him).

MysticCat · #4 09-25-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SydneyK

It was his tripping of Good Russell that got him ejected from the game, but Yasmin was going off on him for tackling her "like a dude."

I agree - I thought he should have apologized to his tribe (and, possibly, to Good Russell) for flagrantly breaking the rules Jeff had just warned about. But I don't think he owed an apology to Yasmin for tackling her (and that's what I think she wanted from him).

I gotcha, and I agree.

But at the same time, he shouldn't have gone off on Yasmin's grammar and the like. And she shouldn't have arrived in Foa Foa's camp and announced that she was there to help them so that beating them in challenges to that it wouldn't feel like taking candy from a baby.

To paraphrase Shii Ann: clueless, clueless people.

ETA: About the HII RussHell found, the strategic overview of last night's episode at Reality News Online says this:

What would help Jaison even more is if he could discover that Russell’s non-hidden immunity idol cannot help Russell. As was revealed in this episode, for it to work in a particular tribe it must be from the other tribe’s camp, which only Yasmin appears to know (then again, given her acumen, maybe not). Jaison is the only other one who knows of its existence and now who has it, so if he needed to dislodge Russell for some reason, he could bait him into it if he ever discovers this truth about hidden idols this season.

I have to say I didn't hear that point clearly made last night, but maybe I missed it. (Or maybe they're reading too much into something.)