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Old 09-22-2009, 05:31 AM
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This is the best explanation on this and absolutely correct. At the University I advise at the quota additions are given to the smallest Chapters. So if a PNM has ABC as choice number 1 and XYZ as choice number 2 and ABC is smaller than XYZ then the PNM goes to XYZ even though it was her second choice.
Just so a PNM doesn't read this an freak out. A chapter can't "pull" you from your first choice group. You will not be placed in your 2nd choice XYZ unless you were not matched with you 1st choice ABC.

Also, I think AXOrushadvisor may have switched her chapter names. If, at her school, smaller chapters are given the benefit of the quota addition (and here I assume she means smaller in terms of total, not how many they pulled during the current recruitment cycle) then I think she meant to say that...

XYZ is the smaller chapter, and so even though the PNM "preffed" ABC first, she will likely be quota-added to XYZ.

At my school quota additions have more to do with how the PNM is ranked by the chapter. We try not to go too far down the chapter's list, and we also (generally) try to make most of our quota adds the PNM's first choice. If a PNM appears about the same amount below the quota cut-off for two houses, we go with her top choice. *the priorities of quota addition (beefing up smaller chapters, PNM choice, chapter choice, etc.) are at the discretion of the CPH's recruitment team, advisor and RFM specialist.

*also, I don't know if this has been noted, but quota additions shouldn't be more than 5% of quota (rounded up). For most chapters this amounts to 1-4 women.

Interestingly enough, quota additions can mean that a women who is ranked lower on her "preffed" chapter's list can get a bid, when a woman who is ranked higher did not.

Finally--and I'm sorry for the lengthy post-- Quota Additions DO NO EQUAL Snap Bids DO NOT EQUAL Open Bids

Quota additions are at the discretion of the Panhellenic Recruitment team (generally the CPH's president and VP Recruitment, the CPH advisor, and the RFM specialist). A chapter can not reject a quota addition.

Snap bids are given by the chapter, during recruitment but after quota matching, when the chapter does not make quota (and only then). It is commonly believed that snap bids can only be given to women on a chapter's final pref list. This is not the case, snap bids can be given to any woman who participated in at least 1 round of recruitment and was not given a bid to another chapter.

Open bids are given at any time that IS NOT formal recruitment time.
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Old 09-22-2009, 06:36 PM
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Interestingly enough, quota additions can mean that a women who is ranked lower on her "preffed" chapter's list can get a bid, when a woman who is ranked higher did not.
I'm confused by this part still. So lets just say Susie prefs ABC and XYZ and ranks ABC first. Quota is 45, and Susie is ranked 46 on ABC's bid list.
Kathy is only invited to ABC's pref party, but she has maximized her options. She is ranked 50 on ABC's bid list.

Bid night comes along, and Susie is invited to join XYZ, and Kathy gets a bid to ABC even though she was ranked below Susie?

This scenario would only happen with two girls who are below the chapter's quota though, right? For example, lets say Amy, who was ranked 44 on ABC's list and also preffed at XYZ (and quota was 45, therefore making ABC's "A" list) could not be bumped off by Kathy? Or could she be?

Also, what if Kathy had attended ABC's pref and LMN's pref, ranking 50 at ABC but at the very bottom of LMN's list? Would she then be able to bump Susie off of ABC's bid list?

I tried to explain this to some of my girls as well, but was at a loss.
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Old 09-22-2009, 08:02 PM
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Ok, so there are 3 sororities: ABC, XYZ, LMN. Quota is 45.

Everybody who goes to ABC's pref party ranks ABC first. Therefore, everyone on ABC's first list matches to ABC.

Susie is #46 on ABC's list (i.e. first on their second bid list) and is on XYZ's first bid list. Since ABC matched quota before getting to Susie, an attempt will be made to match her to her second choice, XYZ. Since she's on their first bid list, she will match to XYZ.

So.... bid matching finishes up. ABC and LMN made quota; XYZ did not. ABC and LMN may therefore take 3 quota additions each. Let's say the women who were #47, 48, 49 on ABC's list (i.e. 2, 3, 4 on their second bid list) were matched to XYZ or LMN. In the quota addition process, Kathy, who's #50 on ABC's list (i.e. 5 on their second bid list) would be matched to ABC.

(Edit: After bid matching and quota additions, XYZ would then be able to snap bid anyone who participated in recruitment but didn't match. So they could snap to quota, thus creating a scenario where all 3 chapters made quota and 2 of them made quota-plus.)

I think this is why the quota range concept came into being.
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Old 09-23-2009, 10:49 AM
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Key idea to remember. once a name makes it onto a chapter's first bid list in bid matching, she only goes off that list by 1) pledging to that chapter or 2) pledging to another chapter.

Quota additions are outside of the bid matching protocol and can reflect several factors which are considered by the RFM specialist and the campus panhellenic.
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:22 PM
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Key idea to remember. once a name makes it onto a chapter's first bid list in bid matching, she only goes off that list by 1) pledging to that chapter or 2) pledging to another chapter.
Not if she doesn't list that chapter on her pref card. She might not sign a pref card (in which case she will not get a bid through FR) or she might ISP another chapter (in which case she might get a bid from that chapter, or she might go bidless).
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:58 PM
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*also, I don't know if this has been noted, but quota additions shouldn't be more than 5% of quota (rounded up). For most chapters this amounts to 1-4 women.
The 5% rule was removed in October 2007. This was done to give the RFM Specialist more flexibility to do what is best for the panhellenic community. Ideally chapter size, balance of QA's among the chapters and PNM preferences are all taken into account along with any special circumstances of that campus. Overall RFM is working very well.
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