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08-09-2009, 12:18 PM
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As far as cut once/cut always, that may not be the policy for every chapter, but it is for many.
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Is this an actual honest to God written down bylaw in the chapters' member selection processes, or just a tradition? momof2girls, if a chapter does have this, it's a chapter policy, not a Panhellenic one, and therefore Panhel can't make any rulings on it or prevent people from rushing because of it.
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Also, as far as some girls getting no invites, I was told by a chapter president that a few girls that had signed up for recruitment had GPAs that would make the ineligible to actually pledge any of the sororities. Greek Life was going to call them to let them know, but they cannot actually force the girls to not come through recruitment.
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Doesn't the Greek Life office specify a minimum GPA to go through recruitment? If they don't, they should. If they do, and stuff like this is still happening, it should be one that actually makes sense with what the chapters are asking (for example, if all the chapters want 3.0 or over, the minimum stated by the Greek life office shouldn't be 2.5).
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08-09-2009, 12:37 PM
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How many chapters are you allowed to attend on Skit Day and how many on Pref Day?
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08-09-2009, 12:51 PM
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Doesn't the Greek Life office specify a minimum GPA to go through recruitment? If they don't, they should. If they do, and stuff like this is still happening, it should be one that actually makes sense with what the chapters are asking (for example, if all the chapters want 3.0 or over, the minimum stated by the Greek life office shouldn't be 2.5).
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This is the thing - NPC does not approve of the College PH setting a grade requirement as the feeling is it should be left up to the individual organizations. Withi each NPC group, there are varying requirements.
Delta Gamma requires a "C" average. Well, we all know that no chapter wants someone with a "c" average in high school. It's just a very difficult situation...
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08-09-2009, 01:04 PM
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This is the thing - NPC does not approve of the College PH setting a grade requirement as the feeling is it should be left up to the individual organizations. Withi each NPC group, there are varying requirements.
Delta Gamma requires a "C" average. Well, we all know that no chapter wants someone with a "c" average in high school. It's just a very difficult situation...
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Maybe I'm old fashioned, but if you have a "C" average in high school, you're pretty lucky to be going to college, so you probably should be focusing on studying rather than joining a sorority, shouldn't you? College is hard, usually. I looked at some schools sites and the h.s. GPAs required to get in. I am curious how some of these girls are getting into these colleges with these GPAs. Sororities should be the least of their concerns.
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08-09-2009, 01:21 PM
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This is the thing - NPC does not approve of the College PH setting a grade requirement as the feeling is it should be left up to the individual organizations. Withi each NPC group, there are varying requirements.
Delta Gamma requires a "C" average. Well, we all know that no chapter wants someone with a "c" average in high school. It's just a very difficult situation...
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Well I know each group can set different GPAs that they want...no problem there...but like I said, if all the groups require at least a 3.0 and they are letting girls with a 1.9 go through...that's deplorable. If nothing else, the school should go over Panhel's head and set a minimum. Or can't they do that since the groups are relying on high school grades? Just another reason deferred rush is better from an academic standpoint...
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08-10-2009, 12:29 PM
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Doesn't the Greek Life office specify a minimum GPA to go through recruitment? If they don't, they should. If they do, and stuff like this is still happening, it should be one that actually makes sense with what the chapters are asking (for example, if all the chapters want 3.0 or over, the minimum stated by the Greek life office shouldn't be 2.5).
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This is the academic policy from the Greek Life website:
Academic Requirements for Pledging
"Sororities maintain high academic standards, and there are specific scholastic requirements for each chapter which must be met for initiation. If you have previously attended Southern Miss you must have an overall grade point average of a 2.0 to participate in formal recruitment."
There is a minimum GPA requirement to participate if you're an upperclassman from Southern Miss, but not if you're a freshman or transfer student.
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08-10-2009, 04:44 PM
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And what would they do for "bed rush" if the house had no house at all. Interesting concept.
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08-10-2009, 04:49 PM
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And what would they do for "bed rush" if the house had no house at all. Interesting concept.
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Chapters do not typically survive or do well at these schools without housing.
It's usually understood that if you are asked to colonize there that you need to be prepared to spend $$$ for comparable housing.
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08-10-2009, 07:48 PM
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And what would they do for "bed rush" if the house had no house at all. Interesting concept.
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Campuses without live in housing don't have "bed" quotas. It's only at a few campuses - like Indiana for one. Indiana is talking about changing as they now have so many women go thru but the number of beds is not increasing at the same rate. Therefore, many women don't get bids. Doing away with the bed quota would increase the size of the new member classes dramatically and that is scary to some. They are all used to being a certain size and getting very larger overnight may stress their internal operations.
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08-10-2009, 05:36 PM
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This is the academic policy from the Greek Life website:
Academic Requirements for Pledging
"Sororities maintain high academic standards, and there are specific scholastic requirements for each chapter which must be met for initiation. If you have previously attended Southern Miss you must have an overall grade point average of a 2.0 to participate in formal recruitment."
There is a minimum GPA requirement to participate if you're an upperclassman from Southern Miss, but not if you're a freshman or transfer student.
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2.0? Wow.
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08-10-2009, 06:56 PM
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2.0? Wow.
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Well, 2.0 to participate, but most chapters have higher standards (so I guess having that min. doesn't really solve much, huh). You have to have a 3.0 to pledge Delta Gamma. I'm not sure how hard and fast other chapters stick to their minimum GPA though.
Have you all heard about using a core GPA instead of a cumulative? There doing that with high school grades this year for freshmen coming through recruitment. They only release girls' grades from their core courses (math, english, history, etc...not sure exactly what subjects it includes, but it excludes electives) to the chapters. Because of this the chapters are having to think a bit differently about what their GPA means because electives usually inflate their GPA.
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08-10-2009, 07:13 PM
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2.0? Wow.
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Well, 2.0 to participate, but most chapters have higher standards.
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Most state colleges set a minimum GPA to participate in *any* college activities or organizations. Be it a GLO, sports, band, cheerleading, chess club or what have you. Generally, it is the minimum GPA needed to keep off of academic probation. Which for most state schools is 2.0. So anything that is set higher - by the college panhellenic and or the individual chapters - will always meet the minimum university requirement.
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