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Old 08-04-2009, 07:31 PM
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Buchanan Droke is your fraternity house and not a dorm anymore?
BuchDroke has consistently been fraternity homeless housing for quite sometime. The only year it wasn't was my freshman year...I think. Maybe sophomore year.

When SAE was redoing their house in... maybe 2004? they lived there. They had the most violations of any floor living in University housing ever. Phi Delt lived there last year. There was rumors of another fraternity living in BuchDroke this year besides Sigma Pi, but I think they're moving to Gibson in the Spring.
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Old 08-04-2009, 07:32 PM
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Again, I'm graduated...but I'm not terribly sure what the Greek consensus is this year on whether or not to have mondo rush parties or just smaller ones. I kind of think the shift will be towards smaller ones.

Bit off-topic, have you heard the numbers coming through this year? Last year was pretty high, I was just wondering what it was this year.

edit: And VS, every party at the UofA has a theme at least if it's registered...which this one would be.
I swear something was passed here in the past few years that prevented parties with hoe and other things degrading to women or objectifies them as themes from being held, but I can't find the document online. I find it strange that a theme is required, or maybe it is just supposed to have a name like "XYZ Spring Fling" which is vague other than XYZ is having a party and it is spring. To be critical of my own campus there's something to be said where we are against treating women poorly, but white trash or hood/bling parties have been okay, because there's no objectification or insult there either
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Old 08-04-2009, 07:42 PM
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I mean, only one suggested objectification of women.

IFC asks for a name for the party when it being registered. They don't allow "gangster" parties...for the objectification reasons...even though "gangster" really doesn't necessarily any specific type of person. I'm pretty sure there was alot of Italian gangsters for those parties. But most people get around that sort of thing by simply naming it something else on the application sheet.

A theme isn't required for a party...really. But it's just standard fare at the University of Arkansas. The only parties that aren't themed are just hall parties that the University doesn't know about.
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Old 08-04-2009, 07:52 PM
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I mean, only one suggested objectification of women.

IFC asks for a name for the party when it being registered. They don't allow "gangster" parties...for the objectification reasons...even though "gangster" really doesn't necessarily any specific type of person. I'm pretty sure there was alot of Italian gangsters for those parties. But most people get around that sort of thing by simply naming it something else on the application sheet.

A theme isn't required for a party...really. But it's just standard fare at the University of Arkansas. The only parties that aren't themed are just hall parties that the University doesn't know about.
The fact that IFC (pressure from University Administration?) requires a theme is what is interesting to me as they are adding something extra beyond registration and saying "hey we're having a party." If people are naming it something else on the sheet then it seems pointless to require a theme or have rules about it. Granted even without an unimaginative title the same costumes will be worn, so it seems so extra for something that is ineffective as prevention.

Not that anyone can keep anything secret as someone always posts it on Facebook these days.

ETA: I'm owning my righteous indignation against crappy themes since I never participated in them. I will admit going to one fraternity party that had a sex/lingerie theme as a friend invited me and I was going to say hello and then meet my boyfriend. It was cold outside and I had on jeans, boots, and a North Face fleece, and the party pics were hysterical as a few women from another chapter were dressed similarly and the other women in the photos appeared to have come straight from a Frederick's of Hollywood catalog shoot. There were police calls that night about prostitutes and strippers walking the streets from concerned town residents. I also would like to point out the contradiction of the poster asking for themes as he made a point of saying in a Greek Life forum thread men in The South treated women as Southern Belles and no Southern Gentleman I have ever met or associated with would ask me to a party or throw one where I had to dress like a prostitute. Granted these men have interacted with me outside of The South for the most part, but my Idaho boys think it is distasteful as well as they have mothers and sisters they respect.

I digress but as I've mentioned before I've gone to parties with themes that are executed well, so I'm not against themes, just against crappy overplayed themes (says the woman who made an oven out of a cardboard box and went to an Authors party as Sylvia Plath and her date was Sherman Alexie).

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Old 08-04-2009, 08:47 PM
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You mean that fraternities live there while they're redoing their houses? BD used to be an awful place--mostly engineering and grad students, especially foreign ones, and it was dark inside and smelled really weird.

The only group I can remember moving out back in the day was Kappa Sig--the word was that they'd torn up their house so for the year of rebuilding, they moved to Skull Creek Apartments down on Leverett and they really ripped that place up.


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BuchDroke has consistently been fraternity homeless housing for quite sometime. The only year it wasn't was my freshman year...I think. Maybe sophomore year.

When SAE was redoing their house in... maybe 2004? they lived there. They had the most violations of any floor living in University housing ever. Phi Delt lived there last year. There was rumors of another fraternity living in BuchDroke this year besides Sigma Pi, but I think they're moving to Gibson in the Spring.
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:44 AM
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We were moving into glad rip until last week when the university found major wiring problems that made it unlivable until they can fix it. So we were moved into BuchDroke and they are going to fix glad so fiji can move in during the spring while they have major improvements to their house.

We are planning to live at buch droke until we can build our own house, but it is a great thing to have until we can build our own house.

Also Vs, UofA does not require a theme, but the greek system expects parties to have a theme. Also i was only using pros and hoes to show how terrible it would be with only guys. Not to degrade women in any way.
I guess I have very different expectations, I expect a party to be fun and memorable, regardless of theme.

Oh you could have the party with guys but it would take on a whole new meaning. Men can be hoes too. Chicken Hawks & Jocks, CEOs and Gigolos, Brokeback and Bareback, Pirates and Cabinboys and so on. See, better no theme than these themes?
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:45 AM
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Oh you could have the party with guys but it would take on a whole new meaning. Men can be hoes too. Chicken Hawks & Jocks, CEOs and Gigolos, Brokeback and Bareback, Pirates and Cabinboys and so on. See, better no theme than these themes?
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:57 AM
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:57 AM
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:59 AM
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You mean that fraternities live there while they're redoing their houses? BD used to be an awful place--mostly engineering and grad students, especially foreign ones, and it was dark inside and smelled really weird.

The only group I can remember moving out back in the day was Kappa Sig--the word was that they'd torn up their house so for the year of rebuilding, they moved to Skull Creek Apartments down on Leverett and they really ripped that place up.
Yeah, when fraternities are fixing up their places they live in BuchDroke and really rip it up. I believe at one point an SAE burnt "SAE" into the carpet there.

BD really sucks, but it's an okay temp place.
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Old 08-05-2009, 03:36 PM
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(says the woman who made an oven out of a cardboard box and went to an Authors party as Sylvia Plath and her date was Sherman Alexie).

BWAH HA HA HA HA HA HA! Hil-ar-ious!
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Old 08-05-2009, 04:06 PM
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:04 PM
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vandalsquirrel, i hope that you were the social chair of your chapter!!

croakies, could you host a party at wings and things-i believe it is a national chain-or at a local place where wings, beer and billiards, foosball, etc. could be provided?

i would think that rushees would feel uncomfortable with having to wear a costume to their very first fraternity rush party. of course, if only the bros. and the gdi hoes are wearing costumes, then the rushees will be easy to spot!
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Old 08-06-2009, 04:18 PM
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I must say i have not thought about this. I was just told to think of ideas, but this did not cross my mind, and its true, what guy really wants to do anything special (besides show up) with a bunch of guys that they dont really know, especially if there are no girls there. but i think we are just going with something like a cookout or poker and beer pong.
Yeah, "themes" at Rush parties are really a sorority thing. I've always admired fraternity rush as I imagine it is something like this:

Fraternity member: Hey there, I'm Mike, welcome to XYZ.
Rushee: Hi Mike, I'm Rob.
FM: We're grilling some food over there, drinks are in the cooler, help yourself to the chips and cookies too, Our cook is great and our moms and sweetheart bring us baked stuff all year. We're going to play some (horseshoes, volleyball, frisbee, lacrosse, whatever) later, and then tonight a band starts at 7.
R: Great, thanks.
FM: Hey Chris, let me introduce you to Rob. Rob this is my little bro Chris.

I'm surprised you can have beer at rush and play beer pong.
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Old 08-06-2009, 04:21 PM
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Yeah, "themes" at Rush parties are really a sorority thing. I've always admired fraternity rush as I imagine it is something like this:

Fraternity member: Hey there, I'm Mike, welcome to XYZ.
Rushee: Hi Mike, I'm Rob.
FM: We're grilling some food over there, drinks are in the cooler, help yourself to the chips and cookies too, Our cook is great and our moms and sweetheart bring us baked stuff all year. We're going to play some (horseshoes, volleyball, frisbee, lacrosse, whatever) later, and then tonight a band starts at 7.
R: Great, thanks.
FM: Hey Chris, let me introduce you to Rob. Rob this is my little bro Chris.

I'm surprised you can have beer at rush and play beer pong.
It's against most national's policies. Fraternity rush, at least at my school is like what you imagined. However at a lot of schools, or even different orgs at the same school, have been known to do nothing but rush parties, though they normally have a very simple theme that the attendees don't have to do anything for.
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