Law School

[dekeguy]

Perhaps I am just not too quick on the uptake here but this business of being concerned about pretentiousness is a joke, right?
One earns a good undergraduate degree, does well on the LSAT, gets admitted to Law School, undertakes a difficult and challenging course designed to prepare one for a difficult and demanding profession and one is supposed to be somehow feel ... Oh, give me a break! Timidity seems at odds with being an effective advocate and alternatively, false modesty is far more offensive when one should quietly take pride in one's achievements and ambitions. I am not sure if there is much of a demand for lawyers who specialize in timidity, reticence, and the notion that one might give offense by simply acknowledging that one is studying the law.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by dekeguy

Perhaps I am just not too quick on the uptake here but this business of being concerned about pretentiousness is a joke, right?
One earns a good undergraduate degree, does well on the LSAT, gets admitted to Law School, undertakes a difficult and challenging course designed to prepare one for a difficult and demanding profession and one is supposed to be somehow feel ... Oh, give me a break! Timidity seems at odds with being an effective advocate and alternatively, false modesty is far more offensive when one should quietly take pride in one's achievements and ambitions. I am not sure if there is much of a demand for lawyers who specialize in timidity, reticence, and the notion that one might give offense by simply acknowledging that one is studying the law.

Precisely.

Kevlar said that HE doesn't like the way it sounds coming out of his mouth and that he prefers saying "graduate school" because it seems to cut down on the WOW factor. LOL. Seriously?

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by dekeguy

alternatively, false modesty is far more offensive when one should quietly take pride in one's achievements and ambitions.

Truer words were never spoken. I wish some of my classmates would realize this and stop being such braggarts. I have some classmates who are ALWAYS bragging about their grades, or bragging about grading on to law journal. It is SO annoying. I just wish they would be quiet.

[deepimpact2]

Just started my 2L year. Classes are interesting. Classmates are still incessantly bragging about grades (although many of them are lying)...especially now that they have another audience: the 1L's.

[BlueCarnation]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Just started my 2L year. Classes are interesting. Classmates are still incessantly bragging about grades (although many of them are lying)...especially now that they have another audience: the 1L's.

Guess what? After you graduate, it doesn't end. Then it's about where you work, how much you make, how soon you made partner. Enjoy it while you can!

Just know that some people will automatically have a perception of you once they find out you're a lawyer. They may think you're super smart, or a crook, or something in between. It's amazing what having JD, MD, PhD or something similar after your name does to other people. It's weird.

Good luck with your second year. It's so much better than 1L!

[pbear19]

Good luck with 2L, deepimpact!

As for me, I've survived orientation and my first three days. I'm very pleased with my classmates and the profs, from what I've seen so far and the feedback I've gotten from others who have had the same profs. I think, at the moment at least, my age and background are working in my favor, because I'm not stressed yet, and don't have the deer-in-the-headlights look some of my fellow 1Ls have. I'm tired, but that's as much for reasons unrelated to school as anything else.

Just wanted to record the above, so I can look back on it in a couple of months and grimace.

[BlueCarnation]

Originally Posted by pbear19

Good luck with 2L, deepimpact!

As for me, I've survived orientation and my first three days. I'm very pleased with my classmates and the profs, from what I've seen so far and the feedback I've gotten from others who have had the same profs. I think, at the moment at least, my age and background are working in my favor, because I'm not stressed yet, and don't have the deer-in-the-headlights look some of my fellow 1Ls have. I'm tired, but that's as much for reasons unrelated to school as anything else.

Just wanted to record the above, so I can look back on it in a couple of months and grimace.

Good luck! It's very easy to get pulled into everyone else's stress, so make sure you keep your outside friends and outside life. Your non-law school friends and family will probably not understand what you're going through, but they will be a much needed break!! And make sure you take time for yourself and do fun stuff. My class was a bunch of partiers, which shocked me, but were very bright and worked hard too. Get a study group going early too. And, I found that watching "Legally Blonde" always helped me feel better if I was feeling down.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by pbear19

Good luck with 2L, deepimpact!

As for me, I've survived orientation and my first three days. I'm very pleased with my classmates and the profs, from what I've seen so far and the feedback I've gotten from others who have had the same profs. I think, at the moment at least, my age and background are working in my favor, because I'm not stressed yet, and don't have the deer-in-the-headlights look some of my fellow 1Ls have. I'm tired, but that's as much for reasons unrelated to school as anything else.

Just wanted to record the above, so I can look back on it in a couple of months and grimace.

Thanks!

And congrats on surviving orientation and your first three days. I understand where you are coming from on the age factor. I was older than many of my classmates, and I had the same experience. I didn't have the same deer-in-headlights look.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by BlueCarnation

Good luck with your second year. It's so much better than 1L!

I'll second that.

And 3L (well, 3L and 4L since I went evenings) was actually a lot of fun.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Just started my 2L year. Classes are interesting. Classmates are still incessantly bragging about grades (although many of them are lying)...especially now that they have another audience: the 1L's.

That stinks - there are a few people like that at every school. Luckily, the journals send out emails to the school telling who got on which journal, so it's fairly easy to pick out people who are making inaccurate claims about their class ranks.

The only time I ever talked about being on a journal (or moot court board for that matter) was when the 1Ls asked specific questions about time commitments. Other than that it hasn't come up a lot during conversation, and for the most part people are pretty laid back at my school about that stuff.

Originally Posted by BlueCarnation

Guess what? After you graduate, it doesn't end. Then it's about where you work, how much you make, how soon you made partner. Enjoy it while you can!

Just know that some people will automatically have a perception of you once they find out you're a lawyer. They may think you're super smart, or a crook, or something in between. It's amazing what having JD, MD, PhD or something similar after your name does to other people. It's weird.

Good luck with your second year. It's so much better than 1L!

Agreed on all counts, with the caveat that 2nd year can be kind of crazy because of journal stuff. My third year wasn't so bad at all, and getting preference on registration for classes was really nice. I'm only a semester away from graduation (I'm an evening student), so this year should fly by rather quickly.

Originally Posted by pbear19

Good luck with 2L, deepimpact!

As for me, I've survived orientation and my first three days. I'm very pleased with my classmates and the profs, from what I've seen so far and the feedback I've gotten from others who have had the same profs. I think, at the moment at least, my age and background are working in my favor, because I'm not stressed yet, and don't have the deer-in-the-headlights look some of my fellow 1Ls have. I'm tired, but that's as much for reasons unrelated to school as anything else.

Just wanted to record the above, so I can look back on it in a couple of months and grimace.

Good luck with it all - it's not easy, but it can be a really fun and interesting time. It truly is like learning a new language, and the best advice is to work hard and have patience with yourself.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

That stinks - there are a few people like that at every school. Luckily, the journals send out emails to the school telling who got on which journal, so it's fairly easy to pick out people who are making inaccurate claims about their class ranks.

The only time I ever talked about being on a journal (or moot court board for that matter) was when the 1Ls asked specific questions about time commitments. Other than that it hasn't come up a lot during conversation, and for the most part people are pretty laid back at my school about that stuff.



Agreed on all counts, with the caveat that 2nd year can be kind of crazy because of journal stuff. My third year wasn't so bad at all, and getting preference on registration for classes was really nice. I'm only a semester away from graduation (I'm an evening student), so this year should fly by rather quickly.



Good luck with it all - it's not easy, but it can be a really fun and interesting time. It truly is like learning a new language, and the best advice is to work hard and have patience with yourself.

Yeah, they sent out a notification today about who made the two journals. Lmao I was cracking up because there are at least three people who got their faces played. People are very uptight around here about ranks and stuff. I am very laid back about that kind of thing though so as you can tell from what I posted, it grates on my nerves.

I'm wondering how my 2nd year is going to play out because I'm on journal and I'm a tutor for Torts. The 1L's are already bombarding me with questions and they are only working on intent!

[kddani]

For all of the new lawyers and lawyers-in-training:

http://officespam.chattablogs.com/ar...or-Lawyers.pdf

This is one of the funniest lawyer things I have ever seen.