How insulting is Colored (vs. African American)

[minDyG]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I'm still puzzled as to why non blacks feel they are entitled to and should weigh in on whether certain words are or should be insulting to blacks.

I'm also puzzled as to why people on these message boards continue getting in to the same tired arguments with each other over race. Let's face it...there are a few things that are generally going to stay consistent:
1. whites are always going to gripe and complain about not being able to call us the "n" word even though some blacks use it as a slang term. for whatever reason they are really upset that they can't call us that word without facing repercussions. go figure.
2. whites are always going to feel that affirmative action is unfair and that it is reverse racism. no matter how many times people try to demonstrate the fact that AA is needed in the first place because of racism, whites will stubbornly refuse to acknowledge this. no matter how many times it is pointed out that blacks are not the only group to benefit from AA whites will refuse to acknowledge this. no matter how many times it is proven that because someone benefits from AA it does not mean they are under qualified, whites are going to refuse to acknowledge this. Give it up.
3. whites are going to continue to gripe that we get to celebrate black history month, completely ignoring the fact that every other month focuses on the accomplishments and historical milestones of whites and other non black races.
4. whites are going to continue to act as though blacks are overly sensitive about race relations.
5. blacks and whites are never going to see eye to eye on racial matters. in fact many whites are going to use Obama's presidency as "proof" that racism no longer exists. again, there's no need to argue. you aren't going to change their minds.

As controversial as my post may be, it needs to be said because there are over two hundred posts in this thread and most of them demonstrate what I am talking about. I used to think that one way of combating racism in society was dialogue between the races. Unfortunately I have learned that most whites in general are going to turn a deaf ear or try to turn things around to show" reverse" racism. To that end...there's just no point anymore.

The fact that you are lumping all whites together in this post sort of undermines any gumption your points would have carried had you simply inserted the word "some" or even "most" if that is your opinion. Certainly not all whites fall into the categories you just described. There are definitely racist whites, just as there are some blacks who do fit the societal stereotypes that racists would apply to the population as a whole--but those few shouldn't be allowed to misrepresent the entire group.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by minDyG

The fact that you are lumping all whites together in this post sort of undermines any gumption your points would have carried had you simply inserted the word "some" or even "most" if that is your opinion. Certainly not all whites fall into the categories you just described. There are definitely racist whites, just as there are some blacks who do fit the societal stereotypes that racists would apply to the population as a whole--but those few shouldn't be allowed to misrepresent the entire group.

It goes without saying that not all whites fit into that category. I don't always feel the need to make sure that I type "some" or "most." If a white person reads this and doesn't fall into this category, then they know that. However, I rarely encounter whites who don't fall into these categories. That's why I don't bother getting into dialogues about it anymore. For instance, I'm not even concerned about what recently happened with the Republican party and Facebook. That stuff is boring and cliche. No need to get up in arms about it. That crap is played out. I chuckle now when I encounter whites and other non black individuals who like to call us monkeys and the "n" word and "colored." I encourage people to stop giving them attention when they do it. It is pretty much a given that most of the non black members of the Republican party who are in high positions feel that way about blacks. That one of them would be encouraging racist diatribe by some random, PWT is not surprising. Yawn.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

It is pretty much a given that most of the non black members of the Republican party who are in high positions feel that way about blacks. That one of them would be encouraging racist diatribe by some random, PWT is not surprising. Yawn.

It's actually not a given, not even close...and I can speak to that through actual experience (i.e. knowing people in the party, and being close to people who have worked for party leaders).

But, I guess it wouldn't be Greekchat if people weren't making broad, unfair statements about one of the political parties.

ETA: When you make statements like that, you're no better than the Rush Limbaugh's of the world who seek to demonize the other party. Saying that the Republican leadership is a bunch of racists is at best, unfair.

[DrPhil]

I was more baffled by her use of "PWT."

That reference annoys me, in general, but I thinks it's better for whites to use it than for nonwhites. It's another one of those sayings that should remain intraracial.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I was more baffled by her use of "PWT."

That reference annoys me, in general, but I thinks it's better for whites to use it than for nonwhites. It's another one of those sayings that should remain intraracial.

Well yeah, there's that too. The comment as a whole is just baffling.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by CutiePie2000

The song actually goes "PYT" - Pretty YOUNG thang.

PWT stands for Poor White Trash.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I was more baffled by her use of "PWT."

That reference annoys me, in general, but I thinks it's better for whites to use it than for nonwhites. It's another one of those sayings that should remain intraracial.

Context clues....

[DrPhil]

That flew over her head.

(It shouldn't have, which makes me wonder about CutiePie2000.)

[CutiePie2000]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

That flew over her head.
(It shouldn't have, which makes me wonder about CutiePie2000.)

I ducked in during work - I didn't have time to read it that closely.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

It's actually not a given, not even close...and I can speak to that through actual experience (i.e. knowing people in the party, and being close to people who have worked for party leaders).

But, I guess it wouldn't be Greekchat if people weren't making broad, unfair statements about one of the political parties.

ETA: When you make statements like that, you're no better than the Rush Limbaugh's of the world who seek to demonize the other party. Saying that the Republican leadership is a bunch of racists is at best, unfair.

I seriously doubt you would recognize the racism anyway. You would be biased.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I seriously doubt you would recognize the racism anyway. You would be biased perhaps because you know them. Or because you share the same sentiments. Who knows?

I'd like to mark this as the first time in my life I've been called a racist...and by someone who doesn't even know me. Thanks a bunch.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

I'd like to mark this as the first time in my life I've been called a racist...and by someone who doesn't even know me. Thanks a bunch.

I edited that statement because I realized it sounded that way. I meant the same Republican ideals. Sorry about that. I don't know enough about you to say you are racist, but from your comments on here I DO sense that you don't often recognize racism unless it is blatant.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I edited that statement because I realized it sounded that way. I meant the same Republican ideals. Sorry about that. I don't know enough about you to say you are racist, but from your comments on here I DO sense that you don't often recognize racism unless it is blatant.

Seriously, what the eff?

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I seriously doubt you would recognize the racism anyway. You would be biased.

So . . . he wouldn't recognize racism because he's "biased" in some way to prevent that recognition?

You realize this can be flipped easily to state you're "recognizing" racism in areas where it isn't because you are biased in some way toward that recognition, right?

And the justification of "Using some of your posts here ... ", coming from someone who routinely argues that others misinterpret or misconstrue her posts, seems somewhat ironic. Just saying.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

You realize this can be flipped easily to state you're "recognizing" racism in areas where it isn't because you are biased in some way toward that recognition, right?

precisely. everyone is capable of being biased.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

You would be biased.

how so?